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Old10-05-2009, 06:35 PM #1
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DefaultMy first AEG (Echo 1 M4) Need help

I finally bought my first AEG. I picked up a Echo 1 Stag Arms STAG-15 RIS.
I have a few questions that where not answered on Echo 1's site.
1. How long do I charge the factory 8.4v 1500 mah with the factory plug in charger?
2. Should I use .20g or 25g BBs for basic back yard plinking?
3. My rifle shoots too low(using .20g). Which direction should I adjust the hop-up to raise the the trajectory of the BB? Forward or back?
4. What parts do I need to upgrade to increase my fps.

Thanks for any help that ya can give me.
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Old10-05-2009, 06:52 PM #2
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1. Use the calculator linked below to see how long to charge your batteries, or if you check my site, we sell smart chargers that automatically stop charging and never overcharge your batteries when they are full.
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2. I would use .25's for more accuracy, .20's will work, but will have a much larger spread then the .25's I personally use .28's in my echo1 rifles.

3. If your gun is shooting low you want to increase the hopup on your gun. If you look at the hop up there should be an arrow pointing to the direction to turn to add hop, just move this a little at a time untuil it is just right.

4. To upgrade fps the easiest thing is a Tight Bore barrel like 6.01-6.03mm but if you want to actually add alot more then like 40fps from that you need to get your Gearbox upgraded with new parts, this can only be done by someone who knows how as it is very hard and will cost alot, to increase fps you need a better spring but for that you need to upgrade many other parts.

I hope I helped, PM me if you have any other questions.
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Old10-05-2009, 06:54 PM #3
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1. 3-4 hours. 5-6 if it is your first time charging it.

2. I would suggest using high quality .23G bb's for the best performance, but if you want, you could just use high quality .2G bb's also.

3. Depending on what way you are looking at the hop up, forward. (If I remember correctly, it's been a long time since I used and even looked at a M4.)

4. Your FPS should already be high enough, but if you would like to increase the FPS get this spring: Evike.com - Internal Parts | Evike.com - Airsoft Springs | Evike.com - Matrix / PDI Springs | Evike.com - Technician Recommend - MATRIX Angel A.E.G. Upgrade Spring - M120 Spring(390~420 F.P.S.) (Reg Price $18.99) | and using this guide to install it: Mechbox.com | Airsoft repair and upgrades » Blog Archive » V2 Mechbox: Spring Upgrade and if you want you could get a tight bore for better FPS: http://www.airsoftpost.com/systema-tight-bore-high-performance-straight-inner-barrel-350mm-xmm4a1sg551-p-24414.html

As I said before, if you are just using the gun for plinking, I wouldn't suggest upgrading it. Also, remember to shoot your gun on semi-auto after you are finished shooting it so it re-sets/decompresses the spring so you don't lose FPS.

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Edit: Dang, EastCoastAirsoft posted when I was writing up my post . You will not get a 40+ FPS increase with just a tight bore, it may be around 10+ FPS or even less. If you upgrade with that spring, you would not need to upgrade other parts in the gearbox, they should hold up just fine, but be sure to re-shim the gearbox when and if you install the new spring into the gearbox using this guide: http://www.858airsoft.com/upgrades/shim.html

Another way to get better accuracy is getting a new hop up bucking: http://www.airsoftpost.com/systema-bucking-packing-airsoft-p-24636.html

You would may also need a new battery if you upgrade the spring because the one that came with the gun may be to weak: http://www.airsoftpost.com/intellect-airsoft-2000-nimh-small-battery-p-24484.html
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Thanks alot guys, ya have been a big help.
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Well. I tried messing with the hop-up and it still shoots too low. Any other ideas?
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what type of bb's are you using in terms of weight? are you using 0.20g ,0.23g or 0.25g? try using 0.20g first, set your hop all the way down (counterclockwise direction) then adjust the hop forward in small increments (clockwise direction) till you get the desired bb flight path.
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Old10-08-2009, 05:21 PM #7
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Well first i was using .25g Echo 1 bbs. Then I switched to .20g Airsoft Elite bbs. I am thinking about switching to a tight barrel.
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switching to a tight barrel would not resolve the problem. you must check the hop chamber, hop-up rubber and nub first. did you disassemble the hop unit of your gun? check if you put the hop-up rubber and barrel correctly.
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.23 will be good for u and if your just playing aroung with yer gun why need a TBB?


dont take it a dont buy just asking i guess
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Old10-09-2009, 03:24 AM #10
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I have been reading other forums about this problem. It seems that there is a problem with the bucking.
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