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So, many of you know my mantra about the state of the current Airsoft industry.

How many caught my subtle post about a "meeting".

Well...if you put it together...who wants to be part of the paradigm shift for this sport in this country?
 

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-Airsoft products with full factory support with on hand parts.

-Double QC and repaired if issue found before it hit consumer hands.

-AEG springs that are plus minus +/-.5% with no more than a -1%fps drop over 150K shots and without breaking.

-Internals that no "upgrade" parts will be needed to be installed for the parts will already be above the level of anything in the "aftermarket" market place.

-Price points that are commensurate with quality and feature, some items will actually carry a factory warranty.

-Detailed data on upgrade parts to eliminate guess work and myths found in the Airsoft Environment and actually data sheet that comes with the product.

-LIFEPO4 batteries in a useable form factor for Airsoft, mainly for rental and new user use. Durability and Safety is the key.

-Shatter proof optics, that can also hold zero under RS use.

-Market driven accessories, large capacity AK mids anyone?

Essentially...what would happen if "I" was actively part of some aspect of the Airsoft industry again...that meeting happened...and the door is open.
 

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Well, it's going to take:

Factory Support - Check
Someone in the Battery Business that knows batteries and has access to have new "panels" made - Check
Inventory on hand in the US - Check
Name Recognition - Check
An individual with experience and the same vision as the factory - Check
An individual that dialogs with the general public and is can be contacted - Check

I think...it has start already...as of 10PM CST on July 14th...
 

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I would change that to "going" to be. It's not a pipe dream...there is an actual pipe!

And the R&D house is in Southern California - they actually have an R&D House!

Guess what...they hold Tienly Motors in High Regard...Star Wei/ASG...not so much and "not as good".

This individual has extensive RC background too and in our discussion...they are going to be essentially making and installing as an OEM motor...a motor that is 80% of the quality of a Tienly. Their hold back is their manufacturing process is Automated and Tienly final finishing is by "hand".

They are making all the parts themselves and not dipping into the communal pool of parts makers.

Are people getting excited?
 

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Direct contact with factory reps, me being one of them.

They tried to drop their products into distribution and let's just say 2 months of inactivity by the recent big seller has changed their minds. They want to give the users of their products "open" support. So, they pulled it back in house and will distribute themselves and they are building the infrastructure to do it. I am planning to setup up an outlet store and then also distribute to "medium" sized or smaller Airsoft Entities (yes you can start contacting me about this via PM) to sell their product and spare parts. Being that their parts will be on par with PDI (or better)...with a potential offering of 6 spring types BETWEEN M90 and M130...and the spring is "Made" in Japan with discussion of a performance guide sheet sold with each spring plus a warranty...yeah...I believe some of you can imagine what is coming...
 

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How the field regulates and runs their operation is not what I am discussing.

I am talking about product, quality of product and the company to stand behind it.

Loose a selector. Order another one.

Fall on your AEG and bent the barrel. Order another one.

Need a new spring that is literally drop in via the chart and holds it's consistency for 150K...that is what we will strive for...

Now for a another little hint...these two companies are already in existence.
 

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If you play and go to local fields or visit shops.

Start chatting them up and let them know that things are going to change.

Once I am setup (essentially) get my email...I will release to the public who we are...and my territory is everything East of the Mississippi.
 

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Sneek peek on product. They designed this stock themselves. Crane style, for rental gun use or for new player use. I can't show certain parts of it because their logo is on it...

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But, they tested it with my 2200mah battery...lots of room. And in the future a LIFEPO4 pack will be in the offering.

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Looking at the inventory sheet that was just sent to me...that is a yes.
 

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All AEG's will be tuned in the 22rps range with a 3S LIPO. That means normal ratio gears and a 30K GP motor.

Accuracy and consistency will be that of "good" builds. Not legacy technology builds.

The gears should be drop in...as to how they work is another factor.

Oh and having Prerun in the AEG's for some models will be "standard".
 

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Their strengths are AEG's and accessories. They invented the that stock to be "functional" yet fashionable.

They will stay in AEG for now, who knows what will happen in 3 years.

But more unique models for sure...some of the items that were mentioned have never been made.

Honestly, once I get my email address..I can tell you everything.

But, here is a redaction of what is available for inventory in the USA. Another tease...

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Gawd Dang it...so close in getting my email setup. Run through the whole process and then it says my email does not exist. I bet someone misspelled my email name on the server.

But, it close folks...very close...
 

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The Staples will be offered, AR and AK, plus anything that doesn't have a IP locked up by a distribution company.

There is an AEG that is new and unusual...that is in the works.
 

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It will be a China entity, but this is how it will be different, they are are going to have some skin in the game.

Unlike the other makers where if there is an issue, you deal with it after they send you the part. If they send you the part.

This company will handle and "address" QC issues before they sell to the public. i.e. nip the issue before it blooms in the public venues.

If an issue is discovered after the fact...we even may have a recall program. Like the Sintered Steel gear is bad and we have to replace the sector gear.

Another thing is also stop making AEG's like from the 1990s (trolley switch) and 2000's low quality micro switch. Their new line has a mosfet installed that controls the electric system complete as a signal only with Polish assistance.

And of course the spring is coming from Japan...this is unheard of from a China AEG maker.

Since they are handling their own distribution and sales, the cost savings in middlemen will be a mitigating factor in keeping costs low, yet have a better overall AEG for the cost of a Combat Machine.

And the the additional factor is that they will also do OEM projects. I'll just say, VFC is losing a line, because this company promises to make it better for the "client".
 

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The whole range.

From Rental/beginner units to High end replicas
 

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And so with the establishment of my email, I am here to serve you as a representative of MOS-Manufacture.

Any question about product, availability for end user or business needs, please contact me directly via PM.

If you have a more general question on the products of MOS-Manufacture, please come over to the thread that I just opened.

And the two lines are (links):

E&L

and

Arcturus

Yes, two good brands is setting the bar even higher...should I mention, future models with have a custom Perun MOSFET in some them...
 

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Did not see this brought up but will gearbox "kits" or prebuilt gb be a thing. Ik monk, umbrella, etc do it and most results are mixed.
This will be highly dependent on what you want to drop parts into. Being that there are no standards, it may be a crap shoot on how well those mechboxes fit, but yes...they will be available and internal wise. However, the additional level of QC means you will get a quality product.

I could smell the company behind Arcturus and E&L behind this new line!!! Kinda makes me wish I had waited to buy my GR16 but how could I know the industry had plans on improving!
Not so much the "industry", rather just one maker.
 

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This revolution started 8 months ago...I just got pulled in after MOS rescinded the distribution program after a LARGE retailer sat on it and did nothing for 2 months.
 

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Yes...they are tried of the US Distribution system.

When JAG was given the opportunity to Distribute E&L back in 2013-14 for all of the USA. Guess how many AEG's they ordered. ~600, total for the entire line.

Then in 2015, I got 2400 from them and CYB sold them off as the Spartan Delta AK's...that was only 5 models. I'll just say...this opportunity to join their team was not their first offer. Now that they have kicked the US retailers to the curb...I joined.
 

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I posted in the Arcturus Thread about their next level of development. But, I will post it here also. Their first Perun installed AK are available, now.

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