Axis' Build Thread

Discussion in 'Gun Building, Modifications & Repairs' started by Axis, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    I'm going to begin a high speed build soon after Christmas. This is where I will provide you guys with updates, pictures, and video about the build. ;)

    Base Gun
    G&P Magpul PTS MOE M4 Carbine (FG)

    Parts List
    Lonex M4 Hop Up Chamber (Zinc)
    Lonex Blue Piston (I will do a basic Swiss Cheese job on it)
    SHS M130 irregular pitch spring
    Lonex Compression Set (Level 3, I get 95-100% compression with it)
    SHS 13:1 gears (After testing, they have been shown to not be lemons)
    G&G bevel and pinion gear
    Lonex A1 TITAN Motor
    Deans (Legitimate Deans, not clones)
    Basic microfet
    3/16 70D Sorbo Pad
    Barrel Lock Down Kit
    R-Hop
    M-Nub
    Lonex Soft Bucking

    Battery
    11.1v 20C 2000 MaH LiPo
     
  2. Star_folder

    Star_folder New Member

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    1/4th 70D sorbo.
    Hard bucking.

    List looks good.
     

  3. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    I've already bought the 3/16 70D sorbo pad and soft bucking. The soft bucking should conform to the BB easier than a hard bucking. The sorbo pad I'm not too sure about, but I've heard that 3/16 70D is the most universal. If I find that one or both of these parts are unfit, I'll get what you suggested.
     
  4. Star_folder

    Star_folder New Member

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    3/16 won't be enough to adjust your AoE. You'll either need a neoprene pad on the sorbo or spacers behind the piston head.

    You're using an r-hop. Softer buckings don't seal as well as hard buckings. The contact it makes with the bb is unimportant, as it does not contact the bb in any important ways.
     
  5. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    Okay. I'll get a 1/4 70D sorbo pad and a Lonex hard bucking then. :p
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2012
  6. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    Here's some more parts and tools I'm going to be getting. By the end of this break, I may have $750 to spend. :eek:

    Lonex Hard Bucking-$4.50 from Clandestine
    1/4 70D Sorbo Pad-$4 from Scatterplot
    Military Action Airsoft Steel Motor Gearbox Tool (Pinion Puller)-$23.75 from Airsoft Park
    Lonex V2 Geabox Shell with 8mm Bearings and Tappet plate-$48 from Clandestine
    Dremel 4000-2/30 120-Volt Variable Speed Rotary Tool Kit-$82.99 from Amazon
    Dremel 710-05 160 Piece Accessory Kit-$30.10 from Amazon
    Ultra Plug,Male/Female Set (4)-$14.20 from Amazon
    G&G Steel Pinion Gear-$6 from ASGI
    JG Gears-$16.99 from Airsoft Atlanta
    Prometheus 6.03 363mm TBB (EG, whatever that is)-$70 from Evike

    Total
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    $300.53

    Estimated price after shipping charges
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    $360.00
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2012
  7. Lefse

    Lefse Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Why not just buy a set of JG gears and use that bevel, it will be alot cheaper and will be at least as durable?
     
  8. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    Will the gears mesh properly?
     
  9. Lefse

    Lefse Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    JG bevels have 10 teeth, just like all other bevels, except for SC bevels.
     
  10. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    Alright, JG gear set it is. :eek:

    I thought the G&G gear set was overpriced...
     
  11. Lefse

    Lefse Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    G&G gears are good, but come on, that's $18 more than a set of Lonex gears, and $48 more than a set of JG gears!
     
  12. Robin-Hood

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    lol G&G parts

    Yeah, get a JG bevel. I have a JG bevel in my DSG build right now and it's fine. To be fair I have also run it with a CA bevel, both with zero problems.
     
  13. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    Well, G&G's pinion is a tank so I figured their gears would be good too...But for $58? I don't think so.

    I'll probably end up getting Siegetek 10.44:1's. In the meantime, I'll get the JG gears.
     
  14. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    UPDATE: [2/19/13]

    ~Mods and installations~
    Deans
    New M130 Spring

    ~Needs~
    ICS High Viscosity Silicone Grease (for compression parts)
    Microfet

    ~New tools~
    Dremel

    ~Other~
    LiPo & charger received

    Next steps: Install Lonex A1, add SHS 13:1's, shim accordingly, add SHS POM Delayer Chip
     
  15. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    I got the gun working for a bit, but then the screw holding the Lonex POM piston head to the G&P white came loose. While getting to my gearbox, the selector plate decided to snap in two. Should I get a selector plate with an electrical safety on it or not?
     
  16. Star_folder

    Star_folder New Member

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    You only need one with the electrical safety if your gun is wired for an electrical safety. Otherwise it doesn't matter.
     
  17. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    Alright, one without an electrical safety then. Thanks for the help!
     
  18. Axis

    Axis New Member Supporting Member

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    I received my selector plate and tappet plate today. Evike sent me the wrong ones. -____- I suppose the selector plate will just have to do. However, the tappet plate I will complain about as well as my PMAG I ordered for Christmas that was actually black instead of FG. Hopefully Evike won't be an arsehole and will send me my real products free of charge.

    However, after doing some half-decent phase 2 shimming, I need to shim my gears to my Lonex A1. Unfortunately, G&Ps come stock with screw on motor connectors. As a result, I must replace a part on my Lonex A1 so that I may use it accordingly. My problem?I have no idea what the parts on a motor are called and how to take one apart.I would really appreciate some help with the long type motor anatomy, as well as its disassembly. In fact, I may appreciate so much as to give the first one to help me internet cookies...
     
  19. Thestig

    Thestig Some say... Supporting Member

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    Just checking in. I might have some purpose here.
     
  20. ExtremMilSimOP

    ExtremMilSimOP New Member

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    I'v been looking into how to make frankentorques recently myself. Here: http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Quick-Guide-Motor-Takedo-t227449.html

    Now give me my cookies.

    Edit: Even with that guide, it'd probably still be FAR easier to simply solder the motor connections after slicing off G&P's annoyingly propietary motor terminals.
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2013