BatSuit

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  1. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    Yup, you read the title right... How would you build a BatSuit? Not a legitimate one, with the Kevlar, but a costume, or so. I guess if you wanted to make a real one, go ahead and talk about it.

    On this forum, I get ads for Body Armor, and I saw this one. It looks like the ninja suit in Batman Begins, and I thought it would be cool to make a suit. I probably never will, but here it is.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

    To make the Bat Symbol, you could even use Kydex...
     
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  3. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    UD Replicas initially started my thirst to be Batman. I just don't have $1600 for the suit.
     
  4. CajunAirsoft

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    I would so just run around the city to creep people out. Airsoft in a batman suit no matter how impractical soooo awesome.
     
  5. BoogerMc

    BoogerMc Airsoft Jedi Master Supporting Member

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    Funny I came across this thread, I have been considering remaking my old Batman costume and the new suit is what I would base it on. Not an exact replica, mind you, but I would base it on the idea and concept behind it. Here is a picture of my current suit.

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    It should be noted, this is not me modeling the suit; otherwise, it would be a fatman suit.

    To remake the suit, I have given this a lot of thought. First, I would start with a new base. The current body suit is a one piece dance leotard and it is on backwards. The neck droops so low, that I had to turn it around and sew some hook and loop fasteners (like on women's bras) along the neck line just to draw it in. I have actually purchased the new base, it is a set of sports pants and shirt, but I have yet to begin the actual project because I have too much on my plate already.

    However, my next step would be to make molds of my body, the arms, legs, torso, etc. Everything that would be covered by the "armor" pieces. Using these molds, I would then cast a body double of myself. Once I had the body double, I would use clay to sculpt the armor pieces on my body double and then make molds of them. Once I had the new molds, I would cast the armor pieces out of plastic or latex; however, for realism, I would go for plastic as it will provide the best appearance once painted and it will last longer as well. If i could not get plastic, fiberglass resin or an epoxy might be a good substitute as well and potentially easier to work with too.

    The next part is where it gets tricky, attaching the armor pices to the body suit. I have really given this some thought and I have determined the best way to do this is not to attach them directly to the body suit, but rather to attach them to a frame made of nylon or polypropolyene webbing. Basically, the webbing would be assembled in such a maner as to cover certain parts of the body and wrap itself around certain other parts to create a framework to which the armor pieces would attach. Kind of like a harness, only over the entire body.

    Once the body suit is completed, there are the gloves and boots to consider. Boots are only difficult because I need to create a sole; however, there is a local boot maker in my area that I had considered talking to to see what my options were. If worse comes to worse, I could mold them out of heavy duty latex or rubber.

    Gloves are much easier, especially with the new suit design. Basically, all I really need to do is buy a pair of biker gloves or paintball gloves similar to the ones you see in the movie or the suit from UD Replicas. The gaunlets are what makes the gloves part of the batsuit. These can be made in several ways, I could buy and modify the toy ones. I could make them myself by molding them, like the armor pieces. I could even modify a set of shin guards to serve in their place; however, this will greatly depend on the overall design and appearance of the suit I am creating.

    The cape is not that difficult, I could reuse the one I have with a few modification to allow it to attach like the one in the movie or I could attach it like the one in the comics, either way, it's more or less just one big piece of cloth with scallops cut out of one edge and seams sewn into the others.

    The mask is where the problems come in, it would have to be molded to my head, but at the same time it must be comfortable to wear and have the proper appearnce to look the part. No matter what, it must be some harder material than latex; otherwise it will not hold its shape. The one in the picture is latex and it has almost melted to itself on a few occasions. It has warped to the point that I had to use a hairdryer to heat it up and reshape it. In addition, it is too hot inside because it is latex, it makes me sweat something fierce. So yes, I would make it our of something different.

    As for the belt and gadgets, I like the old yellow belt myself, not the goldish orange one, so I would deviate here and design my own. I already have plenty of gadgets on this suit, so it's just a matter of making them work with the new suit. I would also stick with the yellow oval around the bat emblem because it was placed there for a reason, it is essentially a target to concentrate the bad guy's gun fire at the point where the armor is strongest.

    Anyway, this is how I would build the batsuit. Hope it makes sense to everyone.
     
  6. Protectionperfection

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    no one wants to redo teh Adam West Batman costume?
     
  7. BoogerMc

    BoogerMc Airsoft Jedi Master Supporting Member

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    Why mess with perfection. For what it was and what it was designed for, it was exactly what it needed to be. Again, why mess with perfection?
     
  8. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    Your suit, and idea are great. I love that there's still love for older Batman. Personally, I like Nolan's Batman, just because the suit looks more realistic. You can't expect every henchman to have horrible aim, or always shoot the same place. But thats just me. I looked for a bunch of different pieces, to make a complete suit.

    This is the cowl. I always look at eBay for cowls, because those cheap Halloween ones don't cut it. Usually I find more, at a cheaper price, but this isn't the case when I look now. Heres a great one I found just now, a bit more than others I see. The gaping hole in the neck would probably be covered by some black cloth, or I could even wear a thin, polyester head wrap or something, if it was too big. My head is small, so something being is always the problem.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Batm...Accessories&hash=item4abaaa231f#ht_500wt_1173

    For the torso, I was thinking of the same body armor I linked to before. It would be painted black, including the purple. I think it has great shoulder pads, perfect for attaching a cape. UnderArmor would be worn under it, so the fabric goes all the way down the arm.
    http://www.airsoftsociety.com/exter...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

    The Batman symbol would made out of Kydex. Its relatively easy to make something out of it, as I've heard. I haven't tried yet, but shaping the symbol should yield something like the flames this guy puts on holsters.
    http://buybrownholsters.com/

    For the pants, I've found these Crash Pads. With some dye to make 'em black, they would look great. The leg pad would also have to be cut, to allow for the boot.
    http://www.amazon.com/Crash-Pads-Ad...44428483&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=crashpad+pants

    The belt is difficult, I would personally go with a cheap Halloween one. Or I email UDReplicas, see if I can get one of theirs'.
    http://www.udreplicas.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=79

    There's also this uber expensive one, but I wouldn't do it. Here it is...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BATMAN-UTIL...ltDomain_0&hash=item4abaa76c37#ht_1928wt_1173

    The gloves are easy. To get the gauntlet, I would attach some sort of shin guard to the 5.11 Hard Time gauntlets, and attach Kydex fins to the shin guard.
    http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Accessories/Gloves/XPRT-HardTime-Gauntlet-Gloves.html

    Boots are even easier. Jedi boots are cool.
    http://www.amazon.com/CAP100-Medium...TF8&qid=1344430692&sr=8-1&keywords=jedi+boots

    The cape would be handmade. Based on my height, I'd add couple inches to drag a little. The horizontal length would be twice my height, and 20" extra for the shoulders. I'd fold an inch for pockets, where I place rods, so when I grab them, and it looks like a bat. The cape will have to be cut in the right shape.

    I believe thats it. That took like 40 minutes to research and write. I probably won't do anything until I'm 18, I don't have the money, or time to do so right now... Wish I did though, wish I did...
     
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  9. BoogerMc

    BoogerMc Airsoft Jedi Master Supporting Member

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    The Cowl, I want something that can be worn just like in the movie, so I have full range of motion. This appears to be able to do the job.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...9861&item=170891009861&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

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    The body suit, ask and ye shall receive.

    http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/10/02/batman-motorcycle-suit-the-dark-knight/

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    As for the gauntlets, there are several choices out there.

    http://budk.com/Closeouts/Dark-Knight-Arm-Gauntlets

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    http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/dark-knight-arm-gauntlets

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    http://www.monstersinmotion.com/car...allistic-ninja-gauntlets-prop-replica-p-16903

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    Personally, I like these last ones.

    The Boots, again, there are several from which to choose.

    http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=9564

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    http://www.motorcowboy.com/category/batmanbeginsboots/

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    http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/36/44951/ITEM/Icon-1000-Elsinore-Boots.aspx

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    Or just choose form this site

    http://www.motorcycle-superstore.co...g-Gear.aspx#&&Back=0-0-65,500-2-0-0-0-0-1-1-1

    Of course, a proper cape is going to be handmade, but if you’re unable to do that, check these out.

    http://www.costumesgalore.net/costumes/group/batman/batman_cape_06008.html

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    http://hollywoodprop.com/batmancapes.htm

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    Other than the belt, which I leave entirely up to the individual, although a quick Google search should reveal some nice replicas, and some gadgets, etc.; this should cover it.

    Enjoy.
     
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  10. Batman

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    I am not going to post any helpful information here because I know booger will ridicule me for some small mistake in my information.
     
  11. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    Its ok Batman, I was hoping you'd get in on this. You're freakin' username is Batman...

    Booger, that is probably the easiest way to go about a suit. But easily the most expensive The cowl went for $500 this morning. And I've never seen Special Forces wear ballistic gauntlets. The total price for everything you listed comes between $2250-$2400. Mine can be done around $700 to $950. But I never said it had to be realistic... The things I would do for a UD Replica suit...
     
  12. BoogerMc

    BoogerMc Airsoft Jedi Master Supporting Member

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    Naw, but I might sic Bat-mite after you. :D

    @TCA

    Yeah, it just goes to show you, you don't have to be a billionaire, but it helps. ;)
     
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  13. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    True, true. it would be the best way to get the most accurate suit. And please, for all of our sakes' don't release Bat-Mite.
     
  14. BoogerMc

    BoogerMc Airsoft Jedi Master Supporting Member

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    The thread seems to have died; however, I have something to add. I have been invited to two halloween parties this year and decided to revamp my old Batman costume. It will be a combination of the new suits from TDK and TDKR as well as some others I have found on the net, plus my own personal touches.

    I will post pics of the suit and its construction as it progresses.

    Here is the chest emblem I plan to use.

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  15. BoogerMc

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    Update, I have the cape and neck protector finished, now I'm working on the arm pieces. Here are some pics.

    Neck Protector

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    With cape

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  16. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    I suggest foam sheets as the pieces on the neck protector. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctw1j32znSg[/ame]

    Use ideas from what this guy does, and just follow it well.
     
  17. BoogerMc

    BoogerMc Airsoft Jedi Master Supporting Member

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    Yeah, seen this one and several others by him. In fact, I've been researching several ideas and looking through tons of pictures and drawings I found on the net.

    I'm not going for simply cosmetic appearance, but functionality. I'm also not trying to do an exact copy, but my own interpretation. Additionally, if the armor for the costume works, I will adapt it to become a new product for B-B Wars. In a sense, this is my prototype for my full body armor I've been putting off for too long.

    I should have more updates in the next day or so.
     
  18. BoogerMc

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    Minor updates. Finished the Upper Arm and Elbow Guards.

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    More to come.
     
  19. TheCaptainAlmighty

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    One thing I found about the newer suits (TDK and TDKR) is that it lacks elbow joint protection. It really has nothing on the inside, I guess to allow for mobility.

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    Batman TDKR by WarWolf131, on Flickr
     
  20. BoogerMc

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    Actually, if you look closely, there are pads on the elbows, but they are very small and they're attached to the gaunlets, not the upper arms. I opted to go the other direction to allow the lower arm a greater range of movement. I did find that my current design limits my elbow movement, but I know how to fix this, I just have to get some 1 inch wide elastic, hopefully heavy duty elastic.

    I'm working on the small stuff right now because I have to wait for payday to get the remaining materials I need for the chest and back sections.

    My plan is to create my own cowl and base it on the helmet type design of the last two movies. This actually made sense because it not only allows for better movement, but it protects the head better as well. I always hated the one piece cowls of the previous movies because they limited movement and created issues for the wearer, but also limited their vision, especially periphial vision.

    As this progresses, I will be making many changes while staying true to the basics. I do not plan to duplicate, but I will pay homage to the ideas, just not going for an exact duplicate.