[Callname butters]

I have a wells mb05 l96 sniper ive been working on and i want a inner barrel thats either 6.00 super tight bore or a 6.01 its needs to be 24.5inches long i would prefer stainless steel over brass but looking at the results i have found begger cant be choosers ,it would also be great if it was precut for a flathop since im flat hoping it , also if anyone has a good hopupchamber already set up for flathop and bucking included would be great thank you

~~budders

 

[Guges Mk3]

Why do you want a barrel that tight? And what bb are you shooting?

 

[Callname butters]

I want to get a high back pressure on the bb for more range and accuracy and I use .38 or .40 as a general rule.
If you think something else would work or think that that wouldent work go ahead im open for ideas i just want to get as mutch accuracy and distance as possible and the tightest groupings possible at a long distance
And im willing to pay about anything to to do that my self and i want to do it on my mb05

 

[Guges Mk3]

Well...you do realize the tighter the bore to bb ratio, the more detrimental it will be to accuracy and fps right?

And you are building it off a WELL...not a good platform to start with...the best barrel for this thing is Made by PDI.

If you want a really tight bore barrel. You will need to run small bore bbs...

 

[1tonne]

Well...you do realize the tighter the bore to bb ratio, the more detrimental it will be to accuracy and fps right?

That is not totally correct. There is no proof that tight bore is better than wider bore. In fact, all the longest shots in airsoft have been done with extra tight bore.
The more important thing is the quality of the bore.
Also the tighter the bore is the better the efficiency the more fps.
The higher your energy is, the heavier the bb that you can use. The heavier the bb the flatter your trajectory will be. A heavy bb will also keep it's energy for longer meaning that it stays in the air for longer.
It is more bore quality that is important. Not how tight it is.
Though, if you are going to use crappy bb's, then use a wide bore. Try BLS heavy weight white bb's. They work great in tight bores.

 

[Guges Mk3]

You are reading to much into my statement. I never said anything about wide bore.

But, I however stand by my statement that you need to have space to allow the air in front of the bb to flow around it versus having to push the air out like a plunger.

Again, do the bb drop test. Put your finger over the muzzle and drop a bb down the barrel from the breech. If the bb doesn't fall rather quickly, it's too tight. Ratio of fall is ~.5 second per 25mm which is my personal standard.

Plus, your statement that all the best shots made were with TBB's has one caveat. That is done by people who "assumed" that TBB were better and did not test say a stock barrel. Why didn't they? Because they assumed TBB were the way to go.

I'll just say this...in Asia...they prefer 6.05 to 6.08mm for a reason. Because they offer better accuracy over a wider range of bbs. Versus a 6.03 to 6.01 with a smaller selection off bbs.

And a note of trivia...why did TM standardized on the 6.08mm diameter barrel over 27 years ago? I know the answer to this...do you? Sadly...the reason why they did this is no longer true...and this goes to show why we in the rest of the world are "reinventing" the wheel that is the Airsoft industry today.

 

[cetane]

And a note of trivia...why did TM standardized on the 6.08mm diameter barrel over 27 years ago? I know the answer to this...do you? Sadly...the reason why they did this is no longer true...and this goes to show why we in the rest of the world are "reinventing" the wheel that is Airsoft industry today.

I'm curious to know this answer... please post it (or pm me with it)

 

[1tonne]

Again, do the bb drop test. Put your finger over the muzzle and drop a bb down the barrel from the breech. If the bb doesn't fall rather quickly, it's too tight. Ratio of fall is ~.5 second per 25mm which is my personal standard.

Where is your proof for this. Did you make it up????

Plus, your statement that all the best shots made were with TBB's has one caveat. That is done by people who "assumed" that TBB were better and did not test say a stock barrel. Why didn't they? Because they assumed TBB were the way to go.

LOL. The people who use these TBB's are some of the best techs in the world (One of them is an amazing tech). They make there own custom guns from scratch. They also get barrels especially made that cost more than any other barrel you have seen. These barrels are made in limited numbers. These techs know their stuff and they do not assume. LOL. That made me laugh

why did TM standardized on the 6.08mm diameter barrel over 27 years ago? I know the answer to this...do you?

Why would you add the words "do you" on the end of that statement. By doing that, it seems if someone does not agree with you, you get offended and then need to prove yourself.

 

[Splode]

I'll get my popcorn. ︵ ︵ ︵ ( ^_^)

 

[-Spitfire-]

I'm curious to know this answer... please post it (or pm me with it)

That's relatively easy. BBs used to be 6mm. Most of the modern '6mm' BBs are actually ~5.95mm. Hence, you can use a 6.00 tbb without fear of jamming (provided you're using modern, quality BBs).

 

[Guges Mk3]

Where is your proof for this. Did you make it up????

LOL. The people who use these TBB's are some of the best techs in the world (One of them is an amazing tech). They make there own custom guns from scratch. They also get barrels especially made that cost more than any other barrel you have seen. These barrels are made in limited numbers. These techs know their stuff and they do not assume. LOL. That made me laugh

Why would you add the words "do you" on the end of that statement. By doing that, it seems if someone does not agree with you, you get offended and then need to prove yourself.

Item 1. Again you seem to miss the text, in this case "Personal Standard".

Item 2. I don't know who you are talking about, this greatest tech in the world is unvalidated and has no body of work. Please cite name and his body of work. As for any barrel I may have seen...I don't know about what barrel you are talking about. I have seen and purchased some custom made barrels at wholesale for 90.00 each. Far to expensive for that "near" perfect finish and special length. Granted these were custom Made by Dentrinity and each barrel was cut, polished and then Teflon coated to your exact specifications. It wasn't steel, stainless steel, brass or aluminum. It was his special alloy.

Item 3. The comment "do you" is a question. I am asking.."do you" know the bb standard of the 1990s and why TM has Stock barrels are at 6.08mm.

Ah and Spitfire gave the answer out...

 

[Splode]

That's relatively easy. BBs used to be 6mm. Most of the modern '6mm' BBs are actually ~5.95mm. Hence, you can use a 6.00 tbb without fear of jamming (provided you're using modern, quality BBs).

And provided you keep your barrel extra squeaky clean.

 

[1tonne]

Item 1. Again you seem to miss the text, in this case "Personal Standard".

Love that reply. LOL

Item 2. this greatest tech in the world

Also, you seemed to have missed the text. LOL. I didn't say he is the greatest tech, just one of them. Is it your "Personal Standard" to miss read and then try to shoot someone down. LOL.

Item 2. I don't know who you are talking about, this greatest tech in the world is unvalidated and has no body of work. Please cite name and his body of work.

Won't cite names on here but if you check out the sniper forums, you may come across him. Look under project guns. Not to mention that there are many other great techs on there as well as here.

 

[cetane]

Won't cite names on here but if you check out the sniper forums, you may come across him. Look under project guns. Not to mention that there are many other great techs on there as well as here.

I think I purchased my 0.66g ceramics from him.

 

[link0]

I think anything from 6.01 to 6.05 is about equally good and there has been no evidence that any particular bore size is the one "best" size.

 

[-Spitfire-]

And provided you keep your barrel extra squeaky clean.

Not as much as you'd think. That's a .5mm difference. The old 'standard' of 6.03 with 6mm BBs had a .3mm difference.

I think anything from 6.01 to 6.05 is about equally good and there has been no evidence that any particular bore size is the one "best" size.

Wider bore allows for BB imperfections, while tighter increases compression. Bore quality, crown quality, and damping quality is all that affects accuracy irt the barrel.

 

[Guges Mk3]

Love that reply. LOL

Also, you seemed to have missed the text. LOL. I didn't say he is the greatest tech, just one of them. Is it your "Personal Standard" to miss read and then try to shoot someone down. LOL.

Won't cite names on here but if you check out the sniper forums, you may come across him. Look under project guns. Not to mention that there are many other great techs on there as well as here.

That was my embellishment. I elevated them from "Best" to "Greatest" as a point, which is if I don't know them or have not seen their work. They have no merit. Honestly, I have seen way to many people professing to be good techs and what they "upgrade" or do is not worthy of the title of "tech". Like the guy who put two piston heads in an AEG and wondered why his AEG would not cycle.

 

[1tonne]

2 piston heads? Was he trying to make a double o-ring piston head by any chance.

 

[Splode]

Wow, thats worse than an aug i worked on recently. Guy had installed the piston upside down somehow. Like how do you make that mistake, and not only that, why do people not test fire the GB before they put it back in the gun??

 

[Guges Mk3]

2 piston heads? Was he trying to make a double o-ring piston head by any chance.

Perhaps he was try to correct AOE too.