Change my mind "shotguns"

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  1. adas1223

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    take note: for $35 this ROF is faster than any BASR. while achieving similar power factor/distance/accuracy

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    example: AGM m186b

    Wanted to share this for anyone considering a more retro way of playing and primary gun use. something different from AEG's and GBBRs and Bolt snipers. I remember my first step into the sport was a 20rd pump shotgun during a night game. addicted ever since!

    a lot of people recommend "budget guns" and automatically think $120 aeg m4s. not bad! but there is something else out there for a quarter of the price.

    I know there are spring pistols and bolt actions, but your hands change positions and eyes lose aim each time you cock. then we have pump actions! you maintain sight/aim, and your hand never comes off the trigger. with practice you can achieve a decent ROF (compared to snipers and spring pistols) but the market is flooded with 3rd burst shotguns. this only gets you 10 pumps before changing shells. sure it can carry decent spread and joule package, but you lose "fire power in volume".

    can we appreciate a shell fed single shot pump action? stock or no stock, you can get a good rof staying on target. no batteries, no gas, and @ $40 or less, 4 shells yielding 120bbs for a load out. I picked up an AGM m3 cqb $35. decent hop up capability and @ 370fps.
     
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    I'd love to have some kind of reliable/rugged magazine fed pump action shotguns in airsoft. Pump action is by far the best and most reliable mode of power in Nerf, I don't see why it shouldn't be reliable in airsoft as well.
     
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    It can be in breaching and cab scenarios but for field use it is not the best unless it's a gas. Spring shotguns will be good for night field setups but not day. Too visible for day unless it's a side which mostly is not ams to be a sidearm.
     
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  6. Guges Mk3

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    Maruzen M1100...best shell ejecting shotty evah!
     
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    i would say that they are good EXCEPT the ones with mags are not good. would i buy a spring shotty with shells. yes, but it would have to be shorter. excuse me for being a hypocrite (which i am), but i dont like long guns (i own a dragunov. that thing is almost as tall as i am.)
     
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    I'd would chop that Benelli m4 in the video. But that guy could pretty well shred.
     
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    Semi auto goodness. This gun is in my scope
     
  10. Dead_Christmas

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    My first Airsoft gun was a Crosman S32P (Early version, Double Eagle M47B rebadge). Loved it. I'll never forget the time we fired a ton of pellets out of the barrel into the air above and it looked like a shower. We all cheered at how cool it was. We were ten or younger.

    From my experience, clone tri-shots break down much faster than their "slug"-firing counterparts. Bit by bit, they fall apart. The handle is pretty tough to pull back, too. On the topic of breaking: First thing to likely bust is the barrel stabilizer ring, then the loading door. The death knell is a smashed up loading nozzle. Once that part is damaged by an improper pump, it's game over.

    Torture videos can be found on YouTube. "Airsoft tri-shot shotgun disassembly" is the code word for them.

    Spring shotguns are the only ones I have experience with so I can't comment on anything else. I've never broke a "slugger". Other springers aren't usually so tough. Parts and spare magazines are common, and cheap.

    That's all I've got, cheers.
     
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    Fair point. It is a clone but not sure of it's durability as of now. picked up the $35 shorty. I don't even want to try opening this thing up. It feels solid enough, and can even slam fire for quicker rof minus accuracy. You can even double load. Not sure if clone single shots are more durable than clone tri shots but I'm itching to field an ultra cheap loadout. Same excitement with running a spring pistol or spring sniper main I would think.

    Printed a shockwave style grip and added fiber optic front sight. Hits spot on to 100 ft, after that the hop floats it to maybe 150ft

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    I didn't know that tri-shots could be double fed, since the pump locked back after the first load.

    Clone tri-shots probably aren't more externally durable than sluggers. It's all the same cheap plastic on the outside. Internal reliability, replacement parts, and ease of disassembly is a home run from team slugger, though. The more advanced 870's from G&P and the like, the ones that use the true Maruzen system, have adjustable hop up units, too.

    Double Eagle cloned it, but they changed a few parts in the process.

    Don't bother with the newer Cybergun models. Those units are easily ID'd by seeing a button just behind the magazine. They're cost-saving prioritized junk in every way.

    That club grip looks awesome by the way. Spot on.
     
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    Here are all the spring, single fire shotguns that I own. I actually don't have a tri-shot at this time. They're all tons of fun. Even the laughably low-quality UKarms 688S is nice to play around with. The Cybergun Mossberg M500 is included only to be ridiculed. It came with a fake scope, but the screw holding it together broke off the threads, since you had to pull on the top part of the scope to move it back, and off the replica. Shame on you, M500!

    My favorite is the Smith and Wesson M3000, but the Crosman Voodoo is essentially the same. The only difference I've noticed is the tactical stock, and the Crosman's magazine release button isn't textured. All the external materials are identical as far as I know. That's to say nothing of the guts.

    Also, there's something fantastically rare in this image. I feel like teasing you though, so I won't tell for some time. :cool:

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    Nice collection. I like the shorties with stock. Makes pumping action easier while staying on target. Your second image is not working though. Kinda curious
     
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    It's the same image. I was experimenting with methods of inserting a full image.

    The full stock ones are nice, except for the S&T at the top left. The steel stock is just ridiculously heavy and shifts the balance to the front and middle. If I ever get another Maruzen-system shotgun, it's going to be a G&P Police Magnum. The pot metal quality and surface finishes on the A&K and S&T's are awful.
     
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    my dude wrecking with the shockwave style trishot


    a stock would make pumping more efficient yes, but just the quickness and form factor make this compete with gas pistols IMO.
     
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    Maruzen M1100....my precioous...
     
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    My arms get destroyed by fast shooting the air-cocking tri-shots. I need a stock to be able to use one for any length of time. The gas powered ones, it would be usable provided, the trigger isn't too rough.
     
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    Would you happen to know if your system is the same one rebranded by Daisy as the 'Remington 870"?

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  20. Guges Mk3

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    Looking at how this one works and the way the shells are built with the huge collar on the brass...definitely not.

     
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