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Good list, but I don't totally agree with you on the KWA/KJW thing.

I have a GBB from both of these manufacturers and I think the KWA shoots better all-around, and is built slightly better. Worth the $160? Depends on what you are looking for, but the one I have hasn't let me down. There is nothing wrong with the KJW though, and the one I have is a great little gun.

Over-hyped/praised, definitely, but I still think they are nice guns for what they are.

I know I might sound like a KWA fanboy, but i was almost talked out of buying one by a friend, and I'm glad went ahead and bought one and I certainly don't feel ripped-off or anything.
just dont break propriatry items like sights and youre good. The KWA proshop refuses to call me back every time I call them for sight replacements on my KWA KMP9.
 

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It is ok... I bough a gun from them a couple weeks ago, and have treated them royally, and seem to have no problem other than that they are remarkably average
I dunno if you can really consider it "WE." I'm fairly sure that HK3P makes WE's M&Ps, PX4s, and Glocks, which are substantially better than WE's OEM offerings, which are gambles, as previously mentioned whether it'll work fine or it's a lemon.
 

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I dunno if you can really consider it "WE." I'm fairly sure that HK3P makes WE's M&Ps, PX4s, and Glocks, which are substantially better than WE's OEM offerings, which are gambles, as previously mentioned whether it'll work fine or it's a lemon.
How do I know if it is hk3p? Also is the desert warrior oem?
 

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I personally love my KWA pistol and I know my friends all love theirs. I don't understand why they get so much hate. My stock KWA USP Compact can shoot a man sized target consistently over 150 feet, and I never tested any farther. I know they also make some awesome aegs which also get a lot of hate. I recommend KWA to all of my friends who are getting into Airsoft. The only problem I ever had with any of my KWA guns was my m4 and the stock barrel isn't that great, but that's just about the same for any stock gun. Even when I upgraded to 430 fps and 30 rps it functioned completely fine with stock gears, piston, contacts, and the stock gearbox. Everything except the spring and motor was stock and I was running an 11.1 lipo.
 

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WE-Tech is still a crap nowadays?
I have had several WE rifles and have had success with most all of them. The only down side I've really noticed has been their fickleness with weather. They work great when the weather is optimal, but not so much in high humidity or extreme cold. I currently have a PDW, MSK, G39(my second one), AK74u and an 888c, all by WE and all purchased second hand. Most all of the issues I've had have been settled by recoil spring replacement, bucking/barrel replacement or good barrel cleaning. Hell, I don't really even clean and lube them as much as I should and they still perform quite well, especially since I have moved into using hpa tapped mags...
 

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The difference in quality between WE rifles and pistols is ridiculous. He may have been talking about the pistols, which for the most part are highly inefficient and problematic.

The rifles are a different beast. I have heard almost nothing but good things. Their rifles are a much better quality. I'd like to get one at some point so I can really get a feel for the quality myself.
 

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The difference in quality between WE rifles and pistols is ridiculous. He may have been talking about the pistols, which for the most part are highly inefficient and problematic.

The rifles are a different beast. I have heard almost nothing but good things. Their rifles are a much better quality. I'd like to get one at some point so I can really get a feel for the quality myself.
This is absolutely true. I've owned 3-4 WE rifles and a handful of WE pistols, and if they could put the same quality into their pistols that they do into their rifles, I believe they'd be just under TM, in terms of quality.
If I lived in a place that allowed the proper use of gas rifles, I'd probably only field a WE GBBR.
 

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This is absolutely true. I've owned 3-4 WE rifles and a handful of WE pistols, and if they could put the same quality into their pistols that they do into their rifles, I believe they'd be just under TM, in terms of quality.
If I lived in a place that allowed the proper use of gas rifles, I'd probably only field a WE GBBR.
Where I am isn't a lot different from you and I use 3 different WE rifles. Withough much problem. Granted, the season for them is a tad shorter than what most people play, it isn't all that bad. I've only owned one WE pistol, the 1911, and it was awful. Waste of money. However, my rifles have performed great and fixing them, when something goes wrong, is cheap and easy. Just a couple tweaks and they work amazingly.
 
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