Gen4 vs super shooter gears

Discussion in 'Gun Building, Modifications & Repairs' started by Z-man2013, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Z-man2013

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    Hey guys, I'm looking to get a new gear set! I'm going to be getting 13:1 ratio. Right now I'm using the super shooter 16:1 which work great but they seem a little slow for me. Just wandering on you all's opinions on which of These two gear sets are the better option?? I'm using an m130 spring also.
     
  2. cascade

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    What motor and battery are you using?
     

  3. Z-man2013

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    I'm using a lonex a2 motor and an 11.1 25c lipo.
     
  4. cascade

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    Expected RPS should be 30ish at 20amps which isnt much more than stock. Thats not slow. Do you have another battery to test? Are 100% certain its a lonex A2? Has it been shimmed?
     
  5. Z-man2013

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    Sorry, I should have said tht differently. The gun isn't slow I would just like it to be faster. Yes i'm certain its the a2 and the gun has been shimmed Perfectly.
     
  6. cascade

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    So you think 30rps is slow?
     
  7. Z-man2013

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    No, not at all. I'd just like it to be faster. I don't want my gun to be average after dropping hundreds on internals, if you know what I mean?
     
  8. cascade

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  9. Z-man2013

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    I'd like to have nearly hpa like trigger response out of an aeg, i honestly don't want to carry a bulky tank on my back for 7 hours
     
  10. cascade

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    Cute. I can do that at 18rps with an aeg. Your shimming sucks.
     
  11. AirsoftRyan778

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    Cascade stfu, you're probably some 11 year old who thinks he can tech
     
  12. cascade

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    nvm

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  13. Z-man2013

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    Bud, my shimming is perfect. I've been teching for years. All this this thread was for is to see which of these to gears was the better option. I don't want to have the average gun like you do, I want the best.
     
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  14. cascade

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    Going much past 30rps will require a high speed motor which doesnt help trigger response. 22tpa and 13:1's with an 11.1v is basically the best you can do with trigger response, and thats a little under 30 rps..
     
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  15. Z-man2013

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    Oh lord, look at all the highest rof builds on here 70rps+ they all use high torque motors not speed motors. Please try and get your facts straight before giving people wrong information.
     
  16. cascade

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    Were not talking about DSG's on 14.8v batteries. Were talking about SSG on an 11.1v. Only way to get an SSG up and beyond ~35 is with a high speed neo motor and 13:1s 12:1s, or if you want to spend the money...10:1s and a balanced neo motor.
     
  17. Z-man2013

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    I understand what you're saying, but you still haven't even started to answer my question, i'm using 16:1 gears now and I'll be switching to 13:1s. So are the shs gen 4 or the super shooters with bearings the better option? The price difference is tiny so which ever ones are better are the ones I'll be getting.
     
  18. rispoli

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    I like shs if u secure the screws that keep em intact.
     
  19. Lefse

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    A high speed 12-14TPA neo motor with 13:1 ratio gears and an M120-130 spring will get you close to 50rps with a high output 11.1V li-po. A balanced 16TPA motor in the same setup will do 40ish. 35 rps is easily achieved with a high torque 20TPA motor in the above mentioned setup. This is all based on practical experience and not something I'm making up.

    OT: I'd definitely go with 3rd or 4th gen SHS over Super Shooter (SHS) with bearings. They're more durable, easier to shim, and the performance gain from those bearings is marginal at best.
     
  20. Z-man2013

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    Thanks, man! That helped a ton! I'll go for the shs gen4!