Krytac questions.

Discussion in 'Electric Guns' started by The Lords Hand, Jun 15, 2021.

  1. The Lords Hand

    The Lords Hand Member

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    Hello. I'm wondering for a new player with no modding skill if krytac guns are generally plug and play for repairs? And are the internals pretty much the same parts in their current m4 selections? I've been looking at their lmg but I've been reading that the v2 gearbox isn't really well suited to long extended suppressive fire. If I want a lmg what would be a similar gun with a better gearbox that is designed for long term fire that would also be a plug and play option for easy repairs? Or would the krytac work or would I kill the internals pretty quick playing it like that?
     
  2. ma_airsoft

    ma_airsoft Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    If you run it stock it will most likely be fine for a long time, though I can’t give you a guarantee.

    Internals are not typically plug and play once you dive into them because of the tuning aspect to make things run properly.
     

  3. The Lords Hand

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    Well I guess my question with krytacs is if something breaks wouldnt I just buy that part from them and install it?
     
  4. ma_airsoft

    ma_airsoft Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Sure, but not all parts are simple drop ins.
     
  5. aotsukisho

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    Standard M249 models are generally the cheapest way to get a true LMG gearbox AEG, that featherweight one Evike sells uses a v2 gearbox so be aware. LMGs are generally speaking a money pit so be aware.

    Krytac is generally considered one of the better out-of-box offerings. Several friends have them and love them, and skirmish with them stock.
     
  6. The Lords Hand

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    Yes I plan on leaving my krytac stock and only replacing with the same parts from krytac. As for lmgs overall can you guys recommend a durable one? I want a gearbox designed for long suppressive fire. I read the classic army and a&k m249s have great lmg gearboxes. I see the [email protected] available just wondering what people recommend. I'd like to stick with a m249 but in the long run it doesn't matter. I did get a m249 featherweight and I am aware its a v2 and not ment for long fire. With this as a shell could I rebuild it with a lmg gearbox? If not I really got it just so I have a gun to play with my friends with as a field only gun and keep my other ones as my yard plinkers so ill get my money out of it even if in the long run I can't use it as a real lmg for gameplay.
     
  7. Guges Mk3

    Guges Mk3 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know what you mean by long suppressive fire.

    Most AEG's in the Krytac realm can fire off the entire hicap magazine without any issues. And you can repeat that process as many times as you want until something wears out. This will be in the tens of thousands if not 100K rounds of bbs.

    And no...repairs are not drop ins. You will require mechanical aptitude to replace worn parts in a Krytac.

    Back in the Day a play er I know named Rude Dog had a CA M16 and 15 Hicap mags on him. He entered each round with 15 hicaps of bbs and walked off mostly empty, 3000-4500 bbs per round, 8-10 rounds a day. His AEG would last about 2.5 months before he wore out some internal part or another...
     
  8. The Lords Hand

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    Who do recommend on YouTube to watch for tech tutorials?
     
  9. Guges Mk3

    Guges Mk3 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Honestly, I have yet to see a Youtube Tech cover all the facts and nuances correctly.

    Though I do like Airsoft Mike
     
  10. Peeque

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    I like TheAirsoftTech. I think his videos are good for a general idea of how things work.

    This isn't something you can watch a video on and be good at when it's over. It's a skill that will take a lot of practice to truly learn and understand.
     
  11. The Lords Hand

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    Yeah I get that. Just looking for the 101 for basic maintained and upkeep. Right now I just want to learn the basics. Thats what I'm trying to figure out. Whats basic entry level maintance and when does it turn into opening a gearbox to trouble shoot. But ill start with watch those 2. Guge is there a place in mn you recommend as a shop with techs just incase I need a pro to fix something?
     
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  12. Guges Mk3

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    Eric Schlitgen is the "specialist" in MN. He hates seeing me at local events because I always give him a box of stuff and he is running out of room in his work room. He is about 6 weeks behind right now with repairs and special projects.

    There is another guy that always shows up to fields when I show up. He buys a lot of parts from me for his repair work. He is up and coming, but not quite there yet. My next even will most likely be at Crossfire in Clearwater...watch out for that...are you on the Minnesota Airsoft Association Facebook page?

    Otherwise, I cannot recommend any of the retail shops for repairs. They have lost their way or not really hiring anyone of particular skill...
     
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  13. Ben3721

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    There are a bunch of old techs that lurk Instagram, many of which post all kinds of info all the time. Facebook is cancer when it comes to airsoft. Its just a bunch of really young know it alls.

    Most of teching is understanding that nothing is really drop in, and every part in a gearbox is not made to any standard. So every single part needs to be double checked for fitment and adjusted or swapped if necessary for it to work smoothly. I've never built a single aeg that everything was just drop in. It honestly takes less time to double check everything rather then taking the gun apart 3 to 5 times to get it right.

    Then there are all the common modifications/tuning such as short stroking, shimming, motor height, aoe, Sorbo, radius, high speed gears, sector chips, mosfets, bearings vs bushings... and so on.

    Shimming is probably the more controversial topic. There are a many different ways to shim, I have my methods, others have their own. The goal is to have the least side to side movement and no gear side to gear side contact while maintaining a perfect bevel height for the pinion meshing. The motor height should also be perfect before shimming and the motor shouldn't slop around in any way. If you'd like to hear my methods to full shimming feel free to PM me.

    Google and some reading is basically the quickest way to see and learn what others are doing. Just make sure you read from different sources and build your knowledge up from there, then apply it and see.
     
  14. Kuratosu

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    Sounds like that dudes trigger finger needs to lose some weight lol. Laying down so much fire like that makes me wonder if he just likes hearing his gun shoot or if he isn't very good at hitting anything without mag dumping down range.
     
  15. Guges Mk3

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    For the time, it was the only way to simulate a LMG. For the AEG's of the time there were no LMG's. And the only ones were Top units, the bellows failed around 30,000 rounds due to wear.

    Plus, he like mag dumping...
     
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  16. The Lords Hand

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    I would like to run a 1500-2500 drum mag and could use some advice on which ones are better. And yes it does sound fun to put out massive amounts of bbs to keep heads down while me team advances. Not that that's how I would normally be using the gun but I'd like one that could hold up to that type of abuse. Also my wife's last name is schiltgen. Must be of some relation.
     
  17. Kuratosu

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    Oh okay, so this was a while ago before LMGs were affordable?
     
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  18. Guges Mk3

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    ^Neither affordable or readily available.
     
  19. Guges Mk3

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    For Drum mags...the higher the price the better it is.

    Best one I found recently is the 1200 Drum by TM.

    Opps...I butchered his name, it would be interesting if your wife is related to EriK Schiltgen

    https://www.knightsairsoftarmory.com/tag/erik-schiltgen/
     
  20. The Lords Hand

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    Yep thats her cousin but she hasn't seen him in years. Small world