KWA vs VFC internals

Discussion in 'Electric Guns' started by jfelice7, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. jfelice7

    jfelice7 New Member

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    KWA vs VFC internals. I already know VFC has better externals.
     
  2. VTMZ

    VTMZ New Member

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    KWA has better stock internals but obviously can't be upgraded. But you can make a VFC do much better if you internally upgrade it.
     

  3. JakeBworth

    JakeBworth New Member

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    This is a pretty general question. For example, my stock VFC 416 outshot my stock KWA KM4A1 gen 1.
     
  4. RyantheChimp

    RyantheChimp New Member

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    I LOVE the VFC 416 but I have to give this to KWA. While KWA internals are better, they can't be upgraded because KWA uses proprietary parts. But for upgrading VFC is better.
     
  5. ohioairsofter

    ohioairsofter New Member

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    What is proprietary besides air nozzle?
     
  6. levirocks

    levirocks #FreeNuggy Lifetime Supporter

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    These two guys know nothing. KWA has very few unupgradable parts. Mostly compression parts. KWA can be easily upgraded by any decently skilled tech.
     
  7. ohioairsofter

    ohioairsofter New Member

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    +1. I was trying to see what they were talking about I see more than a few people saying this with no specifics given and several of my teammates have heavily upgraded kwa. Mine is all stock internally, and is great.
     
  8. RyantheChimp

    RyantheChimp New Member

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    Sorry I meant to say uses a lot of proprietary parts.... like the bucking
     
  9. ohioairsofter

    ohioairsofter New Member

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    Funny shark bucking works great... Did you mean the nub? The hop up is tm compatible for sure. Even if I accept that the bucking is proprietary that establishes two parts on the aeg...hardly defined by the generalization "a lot".
     
  10. EDI1st

    EDI1st New Member

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    Um.....since when is the 2GX ever good....
    Let me break this down....

    KWA....
    Paying **** ton of money for....
    Sintered gear set
    crap piston
    crap piston head
    crap motor
    small proprietary parts
    parts fitting issues
    9mm bearings are crap


    VFC
    piston is too hard (cracks)
    self shim works but still worse than solid shim
    A lot better than KWA.
     
  11. Bulldawg26

    Bulldawg26 Active Member

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    +1. I have only found the nozzle and gearbox shell to be truly proprietary. I have basically changed out the entire pneumatic train on my SR10 with no problems at all. New SRC motor too. Several of my buddies have switched out the stock gears for SHS high speed gear sets and are getting 38 BBs/sec ROF out of their KM4 RIS without any problems. The non-upgradeable KWA is a myth.

    That being said, VFC is also a very good brand. It is upgradeable also. Bottom line - pick the gun you like and run with it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2012