What do you have already? What's your budget? What weapon system?
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Im running an M4 platform as of now. All I have, apart from things that are just appearance, more or less (shemags, hats, etc), I have a Condor XPC, Admin Pouch at the top of my chest, x3 double stack m4 mag pouches, 3 Mags total, A tactical belt with x2 pistol mag pouches ( I plan to attach my holster and dump pouch to this once I get them) and that's pretty much it. My budget is not defined. I'd rather pay less for something that has similar or same functionality as something else, but depending on the gear in question, I may be more likely to dish out more for something extremely useful / important / high quality. I also like to keep a few tools on my rig, especially for mil-sim type events. A few months ago, I was using a JG AK tactical with 1 hicap that I put in a double m4 mag pouch. I used to use the second mag pouch loaded up with various small tools, but now I need my mag pouches for mags
. as of now, I have nothing to really store the tools in.
Here's what I use when I milsim. The basis for kits should be around the same with personal preference spiced in on pouch placement and which pouches you use.
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Please don't judge me based on this photo. I had just gotten done doing a 48 hour continuous event (I did recce with a fully loaded plate carrier in the hills because apparently nobody thought of having a recce team). Anyways, as you can see, I have 3 mags up front (this one doesn't have the third as I had just expended all my rounds at the enemy throughout the day, so I was rotating to my backup mags in my ruck).
Pouches on my 2nd line:
-3x mag pouches
-Smoke Pouch (for thunder Bs or actual smokes)
-GP Pouch (store tools, extra batteries, and a few misc things in here)
-Shears Pouch
-Hydro
-GRG (store my maps)
-Radio pouches and related accessories
1st Line contents:
-Riggers Belt
-Outer shell of Crye MRB (Battle belt that is low pro enough for me to not mind it)
-Sidearm Holster
-IFAK (LBT 9022B blowout with my blowout kit from work. I carry it because we use blank fire and such. I've seen a lot of shenigans happen in the woods to like impaled objects, so I just carry what I would at work)
-2x pistol mag pouches
-dump pouch
As you can see, I really don't have that many mags. If I need more than 3+1 in one engagement in BBwars, I should just quit because my gun can't hit crap. I don't shoot much as well, so that helps. If I do need more, I have my assault pack with another 5 mags in it plus my cargo pockets can hold 2 mags each due to elastic in it. I'd say shy away from anything branded Condor. Opt for brands like Pantac and Flyye if you're on a budget. THey can be purchased at places like shootercbgear.com. I can't remember the other sites that sell them for non-ridiculous prices, but with a bit of research through other threads here, you could easily find it. Hope I helped!
Please don't judge me based on this photo. I had just gotten done doing a 48 hour continuous event (I did recce with a fully loaded plate carrier in the hills because apparently nobody thought of having a recce team). Anyways, as you can see, I have 3 mags up front (this one doesn't have the third as I had just expended all my rounds at the enemy throughout the day, so I was rotating to my backup mags in my ruck).
Pouches on my 2nd line:
-3x mag pouches
-Smoke Pouch (for thunder Bs or actual smokes)
-GP Pouch (store tools, extra batteries, and a few misc things in here)
-Shears Pouch
-Hydro
-GRG (store my maps)
-Radio pouches and related accessories
1st Line contents:
-Riggers Belt
-Outer shell of Crye MRB (Battle belt that is low pro enough for me to not mind it)
-Sidearm Holster
-IFAK (LBT 9022B blowout with my blowout kit from work. I carry it because we use blank fire and such. I've seen a lot of shenigans happen in the woods to like impaled objects, so I just carry what I would at work)
-2x pistol mag pouches
-dump pouch
As you can see, I really don't have that many mags. If I need more than 3+1 in one engagement in BBwars, I should just quit because my gun can't hit crap. I don't shoot much as well, so that helps. If I do need more, I have my assault pack with another 5 mags in it plus my cargo pockets can hold 2 mags each due to elastic in it. I'd say shy away from anything branded Condor. Opt for brands like Pantac and Flyye if you're on a budget. THey can be purchased at places like shootercbgear.com. I can't remember the other sites that sell them for non-ridiculous prices, but with a bit of research through other threads here, you could easily find it. Hope I helped!
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I'll probably be back with more to say, but I do want to put in one thing about a med kit.
If you're just going to bring band-aids.....don't bother.
My med kit is for moderately serious injuries, anything else (small cuts, bumps, scrapes) I can live with. I've attended multiple events with the very real possibility of becoming seriously injured. God forbid something does happen, I want to make sure I can take care of it, or at least stop the bleeding, so I can wait for first response to get there.
I completely agree with the other guys as far as treating others- if you are not trained, you can often do more damage.
What I carry is for myself, and people who trust me should the need arise.
This would be for large cuts, gashes, stuff that actually hurts and should be treated. I am CPR certified and have grown up knowing a lot about medical treatment and first aid, but I am by no means a doctor.
Med Kit (waterproof)
-Small bandaids (I know I said forget em but meh)
- Alchohol wipes (for sterilization)
- Sterile, sealed gauze pads (stops bleeding)
-tensor wrap (to apply pressure)
-Rubber gloves (disposable, sterile kind, use once, throw away)
-Antibacterial cream(I believe, I should check)
- Tweezers
-A decent amount of Hypafix (this stuff is great, if you don't know what it is, google it)
I always have a knife and flashlight on me.
TL;DR- I'm not a med expert, but I believe you should be able to help yourself if others can't. Take a first aid course if you can, it can't hurt anything.
If you're just going to bring band-aids.....don't bother.
My med kit is for moderately serious injuries, anything else (small cuts, bumps, scrapes) I can live with. I've attended multiple events with the very real possibility of becoming seriously injured. God forbid something does happen, I want to make sure I can take care of it, or at least stop the bleeding, so I can wait for first response to get there.
I completely agree with the other guys as far as treating others- if you are not trained, you can often do more damage.
What I carry is for myself, and people who trust me should the need arise.
This would be for large cuts, gashes, stuff that actually hurts and should be treated. I am CPR certified
and have grown up knowing a lot about medical treatment and first aid, but I am by no means a doctor.Med Kit (waterproof)
-Small bandaids (I know I said forget em but meh)
- Alchohol wipes (for sterilization)
- Sterile, sealed gauze pads (stops bleeding)
-tensor wrap (to apply pressure)
-Rubber gloves (disposable, sterile kind, use once, throw away)
-Antibacterial cream(I believe, I should check)
- Tweezers
-A decent amount of Hypafix (this stuff is great, if you don't know what it is, google it)
I always have a knife and flashlight on me.
TL;DR- I'm not a med expert, but I believe you should be able to help yourself if others can't. Take a first aid course if you can, it can't hurt anything.
These are directed to everyone in the thread, not specifically towards who I am quoting.I'll probably be back with more to say, but I do want to put in one thing about a med kit.
If you're just going to bring band-aids.....don't bother.
My med kit is for moderately serious injuries, anything else (small cuts, bumps, scrapes) I can live with. I've attended multiple events with the very real possibility of becoming seriously injured. God forbid something does happen, I want to make sure I can take care of it, or at least stop the bleeding, so I can wait for first response to get there.
I completely agree with the other guys as far as treating others- if you are not trained, you can often do more damage.
What I carry is for myself, and people who trust me should the need arise.
This would be for large cuts, gashes, stuff that actually hurts and should be treated. I am CPR certified
Med Kit (waterproof)
-Small bandaids (I know I said forget em but meh)
- Alchohol wipes (for sterilization)
- Sterile, sealed gauze pads (stops bleeding)
-tensor wrap (to apply pressure)
-Rubber gloves (disposable, sterile kind, use once, throw away)
-Antibacterial cream(I believe, I should check)
- Tweezers
-A decent amount of Hypafix (this stuff is great, if you don't know what it is, google it)
I always have a knife and flashlight on me.
TL;DR- I'm not a med expert, but I believe you should be able to help yourself if others can't. Take a first aid course if you can, it can't hurt anything.
1) You don't need sterile gloves unless you're doing a major operation. Even then, sometimes you don't need them. Nitrile gloves are what you want, not rubber. Rubber/latex is a huge issue with allergies and not worth the risk of anaphylaxis. They can just be 'clean'.
2) Medical advice over the internet is a bad idea. Especially if you're just CLS or whatever the hell you have since there isn't any civilian counterpart.
3) Alcohol wipes don't sterilise. They clean. You don't want to use alcohol wipes to clean wounds anyways. If you want to clean a wound, you should be using clean water and irrigating it and then applying a dressing. IF you need to disinfect a wound, antibiotic ointments like neosporin and bacitracin are all you need. If you can't apply ointments because the wound is that huge, you shouldn't be self treating anyways.
4) When I attend events, I don't want anyone else to bring anything or try to treat anyone else. If you jump in because the internet taught you something and you try to tell me how to do what I do for a living, I'm gunna rip you a new one once I fix up my patient. Plain and simple.
5) All anyone should bring is some of the following:
-Gauze
-Bandaids
-Neosporin
-Ibuprofen for when aches and pains and such
-Water. Lots of water.
To be honest, that's really all you should need. You can bring athletic tape and prewrap if you need it (should you know how to properly tape ankles) in case of sprained ankles. Other than that, that's all you should need. Your medical kit in bbwars is for yourself and yourself only. DOn't touch someone unless you're trained. The implications of treating someone else are serious.
6) At the guy giving medical advise, the above poster doesn't appear to have any sort of training or knowledge about medical stuff, so i'd just stop now. You're going to end up getting him into trouble (hence why i have reiterated a few things multiple times).
7) To the original poster, I reccomend you go get at least first aid and BLS certified. It's great knowledge to have and could save a life someday. If you want to go even further, become an EMT. The job is a blast!
Welp, that was quite a tangent.
No hard feelings..? I think? I just want to clarify some things and also ask a few questions, since you obviously are far better suited at this.
I'm in Bold Thanks
I'm in Bold Thanks
Definitely no hard feelings. I'm just blunt, and always have been since I joined the forum.
Alcohol works to clean a wound, but it's not worth putting the patient through the pain at that point. Alcohol is used to kill a lot of pathogens prior to an injection, incision, etc. to avoid infection as much as possible since your body has commensual bacteria all over the skin. Debriding a wound with cool water at moderate pressure is enough IMHO. If I am risking infection that bad, they need to be put on antibiotics so alcohol is a moot point. The thing with alcohol is that it will cause your blood vessels to swell (vasodilate) so the bleeding will be harder to stop as well. In a pinch, sure alcohol if you dont have water.
It took 2.5 months of didactic training and 2 months of on the job training to get my certs in the military. I've been doing it for a couple years now, so I know way too much for my own good sometimes.
Alcohol works to clean a wound, but it's not worth putting the patient through the pain at that point. Alcohol is used to kill a lot of pathogens prior to an injection, incision, etc. to avoid infection as much as possible since your body has commensual bacteria all over the skin. Debriding a wound with cool water at moderate pressure is enough IMHO. If I am risking infection that bad, they need to be put on antibiotics so alcohol is a moot point. The thing with alcohol is that it will cause your blood vessels to swell (vasodilate) so the bleeding will be harder to stop as well. In a pinch, sure alcohol if you dont have water.
It took 2.5 months of didactic training and 2 months of on the job training to get my certs in the military. I've been doing it for a couple years now, so I know way too much for my own good sometimes.
I'm sure Papayaland thanks you for your help in their trying times.Definitely no hard feelings. I'm just blunt, and always have been since I joined the forum.
Alcohol works to clean a wound, but it's not worth putting the patient through the pain at that point. Alcohol is used to kill a lot of pathogens prior to an injection, incision, etc. to avoid infection as much as possible since your body has commensual bacteria all over the skin. Debriding a wound with cool water at moderate pressure is enough IMHO. If I am risking infection that bad, they need to be put on antibiotics so alcohol is a moot point. The thing with alcohol is that it will cause your blood vessels to swell (vasodilate) so the bleeding will be harder to stop as well. In a pinch, sure alcohol if you dont have water.
It took 2.5 months of didactic training and 2 months of on the job training to get my certs in the military. I've been doing it for a couple years now, so I know way too much for my own good sometimes.
Thanks for letting me know, I didn't even think about the dilation with alcohol, though I'm not sure why. I've always used it and simply bared the pain.....sounds like I don't need to do that anymore
There's a reason why if you rub a whole lot of alcohol on your arms and let it dry that youll see the veinous structure of your arm.I'm sure Papayaland thanks you for your help in their trying times.
Thanks for letting me know, I didn't even think about the dilation with alcohol, though I'm not sure why. I've always used it and simply bared the pain.....sounds like I don't need to do that anymore
Sorry bout that
As for your orginal question, I would definitely add comm's, medical is up to you.
Depending on what PC or rig you're using, you may not need to add any pouches.
EDIT: Its a condor....I'm not good at this.
I use a 6094something with my radio tucked into the cummerbund pouch (built in). My radio is a Midland GTX something or other, nothing too fancy. I believe you can find them for around $100 for a pair, you can split the cost with a friend if you want. I recommend them as a good starter radio, they come with a whole kit (charger, car charger, earpieces, etc) and have very good range, even when in densely wooded areas.
I picked up a fairly large utility pouch at a sale, I use it for multiple items that don't really have designated pouches.
Med kit's in there, it's fairly small.
barrel cover (some fields require them)
Compass- I recommend finding your bearings before an event starts, so you have reference points for NSEW during the game.
extra glow sticks/chemlights- red and green for night games
Extra batteries if you need them
As for mags, Tacos are always great. I use a total of 5, I think. 4 for mags, one for a frag, another frag clips into a thingy I made
Tacos are great because they hold literally anything. You can use double-stackers for sidearm mags.EDIT: I read your thing about what you have, nevermind (but still)
If you're sure you need a dump pouch, then go for it. I used one for a while but found it only got in the way and didn't really speed up anything. Keep it in mind.
If you don't have one already, I'd definitely look into a Thunder-B grenade. They come in handy at Milsim events a LOT
Hopefully I helped
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