Pyro's "I know absolutely nothing about teching so everyone please help" Gun thread

Discussion in 'Gun Building, Modifications & Repairs' started by CallsignPyro, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. CallsignPyro

    CallsignPyro New Member

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    Alright so ive done a fair amount of research but it still confuses me.
    WHAT I WANT TO ACCOMPLISH:
    Really far range
    Very nice accuracy
    Very nice trigger response
    High ROF
    Make gun able to handle 11.1 lipos without breaking
    Basically do anything to make my gun better even if it means replacing everything
    Higher FPS

    So things I think I should get are
    Lonex motor (which one?)
    Prometheus 6.03 TBB
    Lonex 70d bucking
    Mosfet (what one do I want)
    New spring

    Alright everyone please help tell me what else ill need because I really suck with this. Gears my thing.
     
  2. Jakester88

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    Far range/accuracy: 455 MM polished barrel (stock or prommy), IER-hop/EM-nub, metal hop unit, G&G Green/Lonex 70D, fix compression, etc.

    For Trigger response/ROF: Lonex A2 (High torque, fast spin speed=amazing trigger response), SHS 13:1 or other 13:1 gears, SHS Blue piston head, nice battery.

    11.1 LiPo ready: MosFet, 16 AWG wiring. That is all.

    Other things you will want to upgrade are the spring to get from point A to B faster with heavier BB's, a ball bearing spring guide, ball bearing piston head, dual O-ring air nozzle/cylinder head, Metal tooth piston (SHS blue), there must be more that I'm not thinking of.

    Almost all the parts in the "other" list are necessary for reliability in high stress builds except the spring and air nozzle.
     

  3. CallsignPyro

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    What does stock or prommy mean for barrel? And whats a good brand for a mosfet?
     
  4. Jakester88

    Jakester88 Active Member

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    The stock barrels equipped in guns are brass, and are nearly as good when polished as prommy, which is short for prometheus. Best barrels on the market IMO.

    Mosfets are pretty cool, you can build one for ~$10, get a tech on AS to install one for you, or buy a programmable one (ex. burst fire)
     
  5. CallsignPyro

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    RANGE-ACCURACY
    Ok so first the inner barrel
    http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_72_378&products_id=24385

    Then ill do the IER hop

    Then the EM nub
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/hs-ar...ory-emnubs-for-erhop-systems-2pack-p-253.html

    Then Hop up
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/lonex-c-1_41_43/lonex-metal-zinc-m4-hopup-unit-p-261.html

    The bucking
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/lonex-c-1_41_43/lonex-70-degree-hard-hopup-bucking-p-260.html

    Then ill fix the compression

    TRIGGER RESPONSE-ROF
    Motor
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/motor...n-a2-long-orange-high-torque-motor-p-272.html

    Gears
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/shs-g...eed-shs-gear-set-wnew-9-tooth-bevel-p-28.html

    Piston
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/pistons-c-1_6_8/lonex-blue-10-tooth-piston-p-149.html

    Then ill get a 11.1 for battery

    LIPO READY
    Mosfet will be installed

    16 AWG wire
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9681__turnigy_pure_silicone_wire_16awg_1mtr_red.html

    OTHER
    Spring guide
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/sprin...l-ball-bearing-spring-guide-for-v2-p-386.html

    Piston head
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/pisto...-aluminum-ball-bearing-piston-head-p-342.html

    Air nozzle
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/nozzles-c-1_6_14/core-m4m16-double-oring-pom-nozzle-p-328.html



    Does everything look good? Is there anything better for the things that I dont have?
     
  6. Jakester88

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    Barrel, good
    R-hop system=good
    Hop up=Yep, just make sure that's the kind of hop up you have, M4's take 2 different ones.
    Bucking=good
    Motor=good
    Gears=good
    Piston=Lonex blue has 10, personal preference is I like the SHS blue. It's less expensive and has all metal teeth.
    Mosfet/Wiring=Wiring will most likely be installed upon mosfet installation
    OTHER looks good

    Oh just remembered, pick up some stainless steel bushings and shims, not sure how big. Measure the smaller diameter of the bushings to find out. Will be either 6,7,8, or 9 MM

    On top of the mosfet, you should ask the tech to rewire your gun and battery to Xt60 or Deans plugs. Much lower resistance than Tamiya.
     
  7. Jakester88

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    Not sure, M4's have 2 different hop ups. 1 piece [​IMG] and 2 piece
    [​IMG]
     
  8. CallsignPyro

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    So I need both or one or the other?
     
  9. Jakester88

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    One or the other. What brand M4 do you have?
     
  10. CallsignPyro

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    I have a ASGI custom G4.
     
  11. Jakester88

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    Alright, the one you have linked will work great in that case.
     
  12. TheInfidel23

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    I would also recommend you take a look at some shims and a sorbo pad (or a sheet of sorbo) You need to shim you gears, correct your motor height, and correct AOE at the very least. When did you get your G4? If you got it in the past 2 years, I would look at 8mm bushings, they used bearings. Also, a new cylinder and some dremaling will disable the pesky blowback. You will need to sand down the tappet a TON for good air seal, G&G loves thick tappets.

    Some other things: that PH is OOS, I would find another one or wait. S e of your other parts maybe also.

    Try to order you hobby king stuff from the US warehouse. Month long shipping from Asia sucks.
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2013
  13. CallsignPyro

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    What kind of sorbo pads do I want?

    And how bout this for bushings?
    http://clandestineairsoft.com/bushingsbearingsshims-c-1_6_26/shs-8mm-steel-bushings-p-49.html
     
  14. Jakester88

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  15. CallsignPyro

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    What stock lonex buckings?
     
  16. Jakester88

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    Not sure if your gun comes with the 70 stock or not, but sorry, I had a typo. I meant bushings.
     
  17. CallsignPyro

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    I dont think it does. But im to afraid to open my gearbox so Im unsure.

    So if I get every link I listed ill be good2go?
     
  18. Jakester88

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    Yeah, I believe so. The only thing you may miss is a spring if you lose one. Just do the assembly on a dark surface and you should be good to go.
     
  19. CallsignPyro

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