Tokyo maru guns low fos

Discussion in 'General Airsoft Discussion' started by wolf00, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. wolf00

    wolf00 New Member

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    *fps* (sorry typing too fast) why do they have really low fps? Would really expensive guns be a little faster, or do the springs pack alot of punch?
     
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  2. LegacyAirsoft

    LegacyAirsoft You can say I tech a little...

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    TM guns are made in japan, laws force them to be all plastic exterior and at ~300fps or lower. However they have some of the best and longest lasting stock guns out there.
     

  3. wolf00

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    Ah i see thanks, im glad that rule isnt enforced here that would really suck
     
  4. Dillon831

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    The way I see it, it's only a matter of time unfortunately.
     
  5. Knief

    Knief Moderator Staff Member

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    There is no law in Japan that airsoft guns cannot be metal. I don't know where this myth started but it's completely false. TM makes a number of guns with metal receivers, including the Thompson and the SOPMOD M4. WA and KSC, both Japanese companies, also produce guns with metal slides, frames, or both. All airsoft guns in Japan must have a muzzle energy of less than 1 Joule (328 FPS with .20g bbs), but they are not required to have plastic receivers or frames.
     
  6. pancakemix56

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    I purchased a TM mp5 (used) and I played one game with it.

    I only had .28s but the gun shot awful with .28s
     
  7. hammerhead

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    Hmmm, i was told that at 300fps they were considered weapons in Japan. My Marui mp5 is full metal and features the HK trademarks. I got that thing in 1998 and its still seeing action these days. Only one new pinion! stock gears are still in flawless shape. Marui mwah ha ha
     
  8. theonlyBuster

    theonlyBuster Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Whether a replica is considered a "toy" or gun depends on its output in Joules. In Japan it's 1 joule. They use joules because it's a measure of energy used, where as FPS is simply speed.

    It's like they're saying you can build a a car to go ANY speed you want, BUT the motor can only produce X-amount of hose power. But at for example 50 horse power, you're only gonna get to about 30mph


    Yeah, you went too heavy.
     
  9. Kmkraft12

    Kmkraft12 New Member

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    If my calculations are correct that's 225 fps. That's to low. Even for a TM.
     
  10. pancakemix56

    pancakemix56 New Member

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    Ya it was the only bbs I had at the moment.
     
  11. gunerforWP

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    The laws of Japan, which is where Tm are made, don't allow for powerful airsoft guns.
     
  12. Jrod

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    Tokyo Marui are way ahead of the competition. American companies need to realize: less powerful spring, faster rof, faster trigger response, less wear and tear on the gear box.+ their precision airseal, hopups, and barrels. - this is the secret to TMs success all these years.
     
  13. Shiftyshooter

    Shiftyshooter Learn from your mistakes. Lifetime Supporter

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    It is not as much companies as people who have to realize what Tokyo Marui does.
     
  14. rich635

    rich635 New Member

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    TM AEGs seem to be one of the better stock options out there, but are a bit overpriced here in the US for importation costs IIRC. They cost like $100 less in Japan. They last long because of the lack of stress. It pulls a M80 spring or something stock I heard, that plus only using a recommended 8.4v with some of the best QC in the industry make them so reliable. However, because of the cost, they're impractical in the US, since for the price of a TM AEG, one can upgrade a JG to superiority. Their GBBs however, are the best for under $250 I've seen. Mixed slate, though there's no arguing they have built the basis for the modern airsoft world with the AEG and their GBB design. TM-compatible is what makes it stand out.
     
  15. IHOP

    IHOP New Member

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    Please, share with us these American companies that produce airsoft replicas.
     
  16. Lil_Shady

    Lil_Shady Administrator Staff Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Polastar. The only one that I know of but there is one.
     
  17. JakeBworth

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    I enjoy bringing out this quote.
     
  18. Shiftyshooter

    Shiftyshooter Learn from your mistakes. Lifetime Supporter

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    And yet people still buy them.

    Why would you buy a Mercedes F-700 class if you can get a Ford Taurus for tenth of the price? Because you can. And because you probably like it. It is over-priced, but is beautiful to look at, performs great (although still a bit worse than the new Taurus), but the car is incredibly comfortable and you enjoy every moment you spend in it (and yes, it is like flying on a magic carpet). There are places where it comes in handy, just like a TM gun.

    To each of their own, I'd say.
     
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  19. Knief

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    Just to be clear, that's The War Store, the retailer, who's trying to sell you guns with a higher profit margin for them. We call that a conflict of interests, and in this case, a big one. That's great that you don't like TM, but at least make your argument without citing somebody who's business depends on people buying his inventory over the product he's slamming.

    Also, very few TMs cost $400 or more to your door. I can think of the M14, which is easily the best shooter on the market, and the M4 SOPMOD, which is full metal, but ultimately a bit gimicky. In most cases, you're paying about $300 for a stock TM new.
     
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  20. sp7549

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    Not to threadjack, what do you think of tm's recoil shock guns?