Wearing rig or vest over plate carrier?

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  1. Switchblaydes

    Switchblaydes New Member

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    My friend and I were debating wearing a chest rig or tactical vest over a plate carrier. I thought it would be good to wear a chest rig over a plate carrier, regardless of it's MOLLE or not. He thinks it's stupid and I should just get a MOLLE and buy mag pouches for each mag I use and that nobody wears rigs or vests over plate carriers.

    Does anybody out there wear rigs/vests over MOLLE/non-MOLLE plate carriers with the plates in them?

    Thanks for the feedback.
     
  2. MrGoodkat

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    I am gonna have to side with your friend.
     

  3. Thatguyoverthere1111

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    With MOLLE you have the option to put your pouches where ever you want. With a chest rig you're pretty limited. Chest rigs are great if all you're carrying are mags and want a light load out, but if you're carrying anything else, a MOLLE PC is the way to go.
     
  4. Urbanprodigy

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    That is ridiculous. Just buy pouches. You would look like a fool and it won't work as well. If you have a quality plate carrier with molle you will never have to change your load out, you can just buy more pouches. If you use a chest rig on top you have to buy a whole new one every time.
     
  5. cupcake5157

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    Ditch the plate carrier. I play with too many guys that got all this gear on and can never tell when Im blasting them.
     
  6. Jelly

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    It's not their fault that you can't shoot sensitive places, try aiming for the thigh someone why don't ya?
     
  7. 703

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    I get the feeling that you are using the plate carrier as protection instead of using it for what it's designed for.

    Wearing a chest rig over a plate carrier is stupid... Just buy pouches for the plate carrier or ditch the plate carrier and wear just the chest rig.

    Basically Choose one or the other. It's not a bad idea to have both this way you can change your loadout depending on game size but wear only one at a time.
     
  8. brettcp97

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    I agree with your friend but only iff you are going for a us army loadout. If it is anyother loadout then it would look stupid.
     
  9. Grin

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    You're referring to an FLC over an IOTV, I'm guessing? They are designed to be used together.

    OP, you may be getting this idea from the concept of "slick" plate carriers such as the LBT6094 Slick. It is not uncommon to see an operator wear a chest rig over these. But on your normal plate carrier with MOLLE/PALS webbing it is better to just use the attachment system provided.
     
  10. Knief

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    As it turns out, you're kind of right, but for the wrong reasons. It's very common practice in the real world to wear a chest rig over armor, however that armor is always going to be slick. Examples:

    LBT 1961 over a 6094 slick:
    [​IMG]

    MBSS over a PACA:
    [​IMG]

    RRV over PACA on the left, and the guy left center is going to put something over his PACA:
    [​IMG]

    The idea here is simple. In the real world, the last thing you want to do is get shot. That sucks, or so I hear. So no matter what you do, you want some sort of armor on. However, you might prefer a rig (or a mission might require a rig) that isn't a full plate carrier (or in the case of an MBSS, doesn't have side panels). Often times, it's because you're only wearing soft armor, as is the case if they're sporting a PACA or similar low vis carrier. In some cases, it might be the benefit of ditching some of the weight in your second line without ditching the protection of your armor. Whatever the case may be, there are times when it's advantageous to wear a chest rig or partial PC over slick armor.

    However, I don't know if I've ever seen somebody wearing a chest rig over armor that had MOLLE webbing. Why would you? If the armor you're wearing can carry your load, it's lighter and lower profile to attach your pouches to that carrier than it is to add more straps and more weight in the form of additional load bearing equipment. So your friend is right here. You wouldn't wear one load bearing vest or rig over another. But you would wear a load bearing vest over slick armor.
     
  11. Batman

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    In the black hawk down incident deltas wore LBV's and .223 chest rigs over PT armor. Of course that is outdated nowadays
     
  12. Knief

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    Did they wear the LBV 88? As I understood it, they wore the chest rig and assault vests.

    Not that you can really pick it out anyway, but at least for a historical look this is pretty awesome. Delta and Seal Team 6 in Somalia:

    [​IMG]

    [email protected] one guy who didn't get PERSEC'd.
     
  13. Grin

    Grin New Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Just to add onto Knief's reference photos here's an MBSS over a PACA. The operator on the left.

    And Knief, I do believe that they wore assault vests and chest rigs... Lol at that poor, poor, non-persec'd guy.
     

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  14. Switchblaydes

    Switchblaydes New Member

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    Any advice on an affordable buy for a slick armor plate?
     
  15. Batman

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    I'm pretty sure most deltas had the armor with the chest rig. With the exception of a few like shugart, who I believe had ALICE suspenders under his armor, and then a LBV 88 on top of it. But don't quote me on that. Weren't there only like 2 seals on the entire mission?

    Lol theres just a head poking out of all these black squares
     
  16. Knief

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    Those would be crappy knock offs of the much older PT body armor. If you were going for a more modern look, that wouldn't fit the bill at all.
     
  18. Batman

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    But it would work for a Somalia loadout.
     
  19. Sohte

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    I just purchased a Lancer tactical slick rig specifically to wear under my Conderp vest. It comes with rigid foam plates.

    http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=11677

    I am a really skinny guy so the slick rig helps keep my vest snug and secure against my frame and provides padding so the vest doesnt dig into my shoulders.
     
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