Im not sure about anyone else but im tired of seeing this threads constantly. I mean in the sniper rifle area of airsoft there are not many different makes and models. Considering there are almost only really 3 different sniper rifles i figured we could end all the what rifle to buy thread by pretty much summarizing them here. In any event i only really have experience with Maruzen l96 clones and VSR clones. If anyone has any experience in the CA m24 and the others like it feel free to share it below and i will add it to the OP. First lets look at the rifles and the clones. When i say clone i mean internals not externals. Meaning they all will take the same upgrades. VSR Clones. There are multiple clones of the TM VSR-10. The most popular one being the JG Bar-10 and it is also the most recommended due to it being the cheapest usually. The other clones would be the UTG M324, Well MB02/3/7/10. I know there are a few im missing but i cant remember them right now... Its late. Lets move on to the pros and cons of the gun. There are a few cons to this gun. I know that the JG bar-10 has a hollow stock which most people fill with foam or something else which means it isnt a big deal unless you dont fill it. Then its louder then a Metal Hi-Cap when your sling clips hit it. The one other big con is that it has a 45 degree trigger system. While that sucks you can change it to be a 90 degree trigger and sear combo. Until you do that though the chances of you slam firing are alot higher. This gun does have a few good pros though. Finding upgrade parts for this gun is ridiculously easy. The other thing that i think at least is nice is that even if you get a clone you can still get a legendary TM hopup for it which means you dont need to buy an expensive after market hopup like the PDI. L96 Clones. The original is the Maruzen L96. It has about the same number of clones. The UTG L96 because of how well it was made for its price. The others would be the Well MB01/4/5/8 and the TSD SD97. Cons for this gun are not as plentiful as for the JG Bar-10. That in no way means that the L96 line is better. The real issue with the L96 line is finding upgrade parts. It is a bit harder to find the upgrades for this rifle compared to the VSR rifles. Not so much that it should turn you off of them. The upgrades are a little bit more expensive as well. It has a lot of good things going for it though. Stock it will perform better then the VSR/clones. It is stock with a 90 degree sear and is really just a work horse. The sears are very strong as well. Differences Between The Two. Honestly when fully upgraded there is not a difference. With the best upgrades out there they will be about the same or at least very similar in performance. If we are talking completely stock with only DIY mods the JG Bar-10 will probably be more accurate but not get as much range. The Hop-up in the JG is a bit better then the UTG L96s Hop-up. The thing that UTG L96 has going for it is the trigger. With the UTG L96 you can add in a spring spacer to get out more FPS as the trigger in the L96 is a bit better. The JG Bar-10 if you dont do the air brake modification will be quieter. So What Do I Buy? Honestly either of them. They both are good rifles out of the box. It really comes down to what style you prefer. Do not buy any of the well clones though unless you plan on upgrading. Well is known for having a lot of lemons. In the end you should really pick with what looks better. I will say though that at times it can be easier to find VSR parts then it is to find L96 (APS2) parts. M24 (CA M24) I believe this gun needs to be mentioned. Although it uses the same parts as the L96. Stock its probably the best performing out of the 3. It also is able to take AEG barrels when its stock which is a nice added bonus. It has the same issues with the L96 with it being a little bit harder to find parts making it a little bit more expensive to upgrade them. It still has the same pros though. Its a very durable gun while stock and it also is stock with a 90 degree trigger/piston combo as well which means a lot less likely to slam fire. If looking for more info on this scroll down to post 6 (with this being post 1). Tyson took the time to type out a bit more about the CA m24 DIY Mods. As i find more DIY threads and good discussions i will link them here. Please do use them with the proper precautions. General guide. Mostly about FPS DIY mods though. http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/32-general-sniper-talk/4260-need-speed-fps-checklist.html Also if you own a CA m24/Javelin M24 please post below on what upgrades it takes and how it was stock. I know that the CA m24 is one of if not the best stock sniper rifle in airsoft. I just dont have any experience with it.