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Discussion in 'What Gun Should I Get?' started by motokid58, Nov 6, 2012.
Where can i buy this? that ships to the us?
Not sure if this is a G spec because I don't know what that is, but I just saw this and figured you may want to see it too if you don't mind the crap paintjob http://www.ebay.com/itm/Airsoft-gun...785?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d067c2029
That is a G-spec (at least the manual says it is) but that paintjob and silencer make it look horrible.
OP: If your looking for a new one...
Another option would be to pick up a JG BAR-10. This ones a cheaper clone of the G-spec.
But if your like me, the TM name itself is worth the extra money.... almost... maybe. But the BAR-10 can definitely hold its own when upgraded just the same as the TM VSR-10 G-spec.
What Upgraded Parts Could i Get to make this a better gun?
But im asking, what parts would make it better. im kind of a beginner
Here:http://echigoya-guns.com/guns/index.php?route=product/product&path=52_49&product_id=106 and here:http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=691_703&products_id=2987
How come these guns range so different in prices? do They not have a manufacturing price?
Beginner huh... First off, a sniper rifle will take a lot of money to become field worthy. I'm talking a couple hundred if your doing minor stuff/only a few upgraded parts. And the price only goes up.
Are you committed? Because if your not then it will be a dissapointment.
If your willing to put out the money needed I'll be more then happy to help you out.
ya im planning on spending around 275 put into it.
But, just wondering. Do you want the TM or the JG model? I mean the JG is a direct clone meaning it will accept the same upgrades as the TM but costs a fraction of the price. So, essentially you'll be able to put in more for upgrades. That said the TM has nice stock internals and a superior hopup. But most people that upgrade their sniper rifles ditch the stock internals anyway. So, if you clarify this I'll continue with some needed upgrades.
Also, just want to know what YOU know about the gun and its upgrades? I ask this because the more you know the easier it will be to explain certain things.
I'm gonna get the Tokyo Marui, I'm all about having the real thing not a clone. So yes upgrades for it.
But I was thinking as old as this gun is you think if I also upgraded the utg l96 it would be better than the Tokyo Marui?
I'm no master on the UTG. But I'm sure it can. I'll get some upgrades you should get in a little while, just busy at the moment.
Sorry this took so long.
So here's what you'll want to at least start off with when upgrading.
Kind of in order of what to start off with, but I usually don't follow the order because I buy it all at once.
PART ONE, HOPUP AND BARREL:
- A good hopup unit (preferably one that allows the use of AEG barrels)
Note: you can get away with the stock hopup, but for the sake of further upgrades the PDI one is preferred. Also you may or may not need a new cylinder. But I know PDI makes another version of this unit that allows the use of the stock TM cylinder head.
- A quality inner barrel. 6.03 is known as the "sweet spot" when it comes to tight bore barrels. Prometheus is you want to spend more, Madbull if your on a budget.
Note: I'm not sure if the stock TM inner barrel reaches the end of the suppressor so I'm not %100 sure of the size.
- A good bucking (the PDI chamber does come with one but if you choose to get a new one you can check these out).
I've heard good things about Firefly buckings but have never gotten to use one. Also look into Madbull, Prometheus, and is sticking with the stock hopup chamber Nine ball.
- Other hopup bucking options.
R-hop: kind of the more basic of the _-hop family. Lots of different options, but to many for me to name/explain. Requires sanding and cutting of the patch to install as well as glueing and other tweaking.
ER-hop: "E" for extended or elongated. Basically it will be longer then your stock hopup window. This means you need to re-cut your window in order to fit in the patch. Not all that easy, but if you have the right equipment it will be a better choice then just a regular R-hop.
If you choose to R-hop your rifle this is a great guide to use when doing it.
PART TWO, TRIGGER BOX
- Next you need to decide if you want to catch your piston at 45 degrees or 90 degrees. For 90 you'll be looking at a zero or V trigger. The advantages of these are you save yourself the hastle of possible slam firings (meaning your sears won't strip causing your piston to slam back forward). These aren't the only brands out there but these are the best known.
Now at this point you can see why
upgradeing a bolt action sniper rifle isn't for the penny pinchers. The Zero trigger itself takes up most of your budget.
But you can still take the 45 degree route.
You'll want to reinforce your sears when doing this especially if you plan to put in a stronger spring.
Just to be safe when doing a higher FPS build, pick up a new reinforced cylinder release lever.
PART THREE, THE BOLT
Now I find this portion to be mostly preference, but some things should be followed.
- Piston. I would say pick something strong, if your running a longer inner barrel look into vacuum piston. If you buy the Laylax Zero trigger you already get a 90 degree piston.
- Spring and Spring guide. Choose a spring that will give you your preferred FPS goal. Remember higher FPS doesn't really mean longer range. With the spring guide try to match it with the spring brand. PDI springs have a different diameter then most other springs therefore the PDI spring guide should be used.
- Cylinder head. If you get the PDI chamber you'll get the included cylinder head that works with it. Other then that its not really needed.
PART FOUR, DO IT YOURSELF MODS
I'm not going to cover everything, but here's a few you can do to help out your rifle that much more.
- Barrel spacers. Sure you can buy them, but if you have some tape or a creative mind you can make them. It's really simple, just space them out along the inner barrel. It helps to reduce wobbke/vibrations in your barrel.
- Dental floss mod, this ones easier to explain via YouTube video. But it just helps with your airseal.
Note: not my video.
There's a lot more DIY mods, but some are more complicated. If you really want to know type in the following things in google, airsoft TDC mod (top dead center), airsoft LRB mod, there's also a lot of different ways to stabilize your inner barrel, but some are..... interesting.
Alright that hopefully covers everything
(I'm really tired so I may have missed/mixed things up). Good luck, you may need to save up more money for this but you don't need to go with the exact parts I linked or the websites I linked from.