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Yea, I have a build- Gate titan, 12:1 short stroked 3 teeth, HT 22tpa 22k motor, 11.1v lipo, M120..... I get 24RPS max with a High C battery. Not close to 35RPS.

 

Yes, that will yield great trigger response. Remember, trigger response means- the time in between trigger pull and gear cycle. You can have great trigger response and still not shoot fast in semi. I have a 32 TPA 12:1 build as well. Trigger response is like 20ms or something crazy. ITS SLOW IN SEMI. People think good trigger response means shoots fast in semi. Not necessarily true all the time.

 

How does it cycle quickly and not allow you to shoot fast in semi? That does not make sense.

 

I can shoot 8 RPS in binary mode with 32 TPA motor with around 20ms TR, If I put the lower torque higher speed 22TPA motor I can shoot around 13 RPS in binary but only have 40ms TR.

I personally cant tell the difference between 20ms and 40ms trigger response.
A high torque motor can reach its top speed, usually around 18-25k RPM, quicker than a high speed motor can reach that same speed. So one trigger pull is going to be a faster cycle with a High torque than high speed. When spamming semi-auto, by the 3rd trigger pull the high speed motor is at a speed faster than the High torque motor. Get it?
(I am speaking of the motors I have used and tested. ZCI, SHS, ASG)

 

Just gogo 50rps build and then get the crappiest bbs you can find. Effectively a shotgun. Just aim in the general direction and BZZZZT

 

Yea 30-35k 16 TPA balanced motor on 16:1 would be pretty snappy, and pretty fast. You also have to consider the FPS you want to be at as well. One of my favorite builds was 13:1 and the SHS 18TPA motor with gate titan set on pre-cock. You will never want to shoot a stock gun again. You might need to short stroke the sector and use a m120. Someone can correct me on that though. All my guns use 22+ TPA motors now. They are more efficient and don't get as hot.

 

Makes sense, but will that 45k motor spank the HT with 12:1 and M130/M150?
There are 1000s of combinations possible when building guns. I speak of my experiences.
Guy asked me why one was faster than the other. That was the case in my scenario.
(I went and clarified my post from earlier)

 

"faster" is completely subjective. A fast motor might not be fast when you tell it to pull a heavy spring. Gear ratio affects everything as well. With motors, there is no "fast" its a complete package of motor+gear-ratio+load. This goes for vehicles, drills, and everything else that uses a motor as well.
The HT setup will likely have better trigger response but lower cycle speed than the 45k but Guges would know better than myself. Tienly motors are pretty beast and ive had a tienly 40k from Guges in the past that was pretty dang snappy with stock gears and an m120.