Yet another under $200 M4 thread. (2012)

Discussion in 'What Gun Should I Get?' started by Savior, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. Savior

    Savior New Member

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    Alright guys, story time.
    Long long ago, in time immemorial, I was just getting into the sport of airsoft and wanted the very best gun on the market. Having never heard of systema ptw (Not that I could have afforded any of their kit), and being the naive noob, I sunk $500+ on a custom built DMR with mostly TM and G&P components, purchased from a shady custom builder.

    While I was most definitely overcharged, my unique baby never let me down, with zero maintenance and zero after-purchase upgrades ever required. (I silicon oiled it ...maybe once?) This experience severely spoiled me, and now I can't even do basic maintenance without my evil fingers screwing something up permanently.

    A few years back, this AEG was stolen from a locker in between games, and I never replaced it, choosing to rent whenever I played, as I couldn't justify spending so much money again on a hobby I engage in maybe 5-6 times a year.

    Now, I've saved up approximately $200 to invest in a quality AEG.
    What I am looking for is this:
    1. FULL METAL EVERYTHING. I am in with the Mil-sim crowd, so full metal is a definite +. At the very least, I'd like the body to be full metal.
    2. LONGEVITY. I need something that will last and last, not unlike a TM which will see almost no drop in performance even after a decade, with next to no maintenance. (As I am mechanically inept in almost every way.)
    3. Though I know I can simply purchase the parts and upgrade later, I'd prefer RIS rails or similar tacticool garbage, as I tend to go crazy with lights and optics.
    4. This is going to be my main for the foreseeable future, so I need something for field play. There are no FPS limits in CQB situations where I play, so even 400+ FPS out of the box is fine.
    5. While everyone is sick to death of the m4, it's never going to go away and the aftermarket upgrades for it are plentiful, so anything in the m4/m16/closely related family is fine.

    I've compiled a list of potentials; remember, what I am looking for is something that will last me for at least the next 4-5 years without needing replacement. Feel free to contribute others to the list, with reasons why they are superior.

    1. King Arms M4 Carbine http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=33573
    2. AGM Full Metal 614 http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=34470
    3. Matrix "AIM Top" Custom Lipoly Ready 8mm Gearbox M4 MOE Carbine http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_672_684&products_id=37822
    4. ICS Bushmaster Licensed M4 Carbon 15 http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37500
    5. ICS M4 S.I.R. S-System Sportline http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_672_684&products_id=37342
    6. JG M4 S-System Latest Version? http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_672_684&products_id=37342

    (All from Evike, because reasons.)
    This runs the gamut from King Arms to ICS and even the highly rated JG M4 S-system. However, I am not sure which have the best price/performance ratio while also providing the longest possible performance on top of that.

    So... anyone have an opinion?
     
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  2. Shiftyshooter

    Shiftyshooter Learn from your mistakes. Lifetime Supporter

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    Thank god this really is not another "M4 under 200 bucks thread". You took your time to do the research.

    From your list, I'd go with either a King Arms or ICS simply because those two seem to be the most reliable of all.
     

  3. Savior

    Savior New Member

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    Hmm... Of the under $200 ICS m4's, which do you suppose is the "best" in terms of performance over time, right out of the box?

    I'm partial to this one, :
    http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37343
    But the crane stock only accepts ICS brand batteries that come in a specific shape, which worries me if they are ever discontinued and need replacement.

    There are others, like :
    http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=39127

    But I am not familiar enough with the differences between the ICS m4's.

    Anyone have any suggestions on which are superior?
     
  4. Shiftyshooter

    Shiftyshooter Learn from your mistakes. Lifetime Supporter

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    I am not really a fan of the M4s, sou I suggest you wait for someone else to answer to you.
     
  5. llvllaRk13

    llvllaRk13 New Member

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    It generally depends on what you like more. Ive heard from people who own ICS's that its just a regular crane stock and 9.6 butterflys fit fine. Also ICS split gearbox is nice if you ever do need to get in there.
     
  6. marine121496

    marine121496 Wahahaha~ Supporting Member

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    I recommend the KA I've had one and been a fan of them ever since more than 30k rounds through mine and still top of the line.
     
  7. Savior

    Savior New Member

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    That's good to hear, the official description from ICS claiming a proprietary battery shape was a little off-putting.
     
  8. llvllaRk13

    llvllaRk13 New Member

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    Yea, but again its only what i heard so i may still be wrong but if so it shouldnt be to hard to make a hole a little bigger ;). KAs are nice also and theyre high quality stuff. So ultimately its your choice and you cant go wrong with either really. Also a thing to keep in mind is ICS has the stupid marui type delta ring so rails may be a little hard to come buy than on the KA (which is the real steel)
     
  9. Savior

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    AGM Full Metal 614

    Anyone have experience with the AGM Full Metal 614 ?

    http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=34470

    It looks like with a simple barrel exchange and light tweaking I could make it into a serviceable DMR, and it comes in full metal body, receiver, ris rails, etc, which is exactly what I am looking for.

    I've never heard of the AGM brand though, which probably means it makes cheap clones... Can anyone clarify?
     
  10. USOU_Joseph

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    I just purchased an ics 160 and it is very good so far. It has been through about 10 hours of gameplay and still performs very well so I would have to recommend the ics gun.
     
  11. dasright

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    http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=10377
    If you wouldn't mind shopping out of Evike and trying out AirsoftGI, you could purchase the KWA CQR MOD 1/2. They have a metal upper receiver and a polymer lower receiver but the selling point of the gun is the KWA 2GX gearbox inside that is also featured in the regular "proline" AR-15 variants from KWA. The 2GX gearbox has been said to be a very strong and well engineered gearbox. http://kwausa.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1401

    The CQR line from KWA is sort of like their "sportline" and is very new, so reliability isn't proven but if the gearbox is really the 2GX, you should be good, except, of course, for lemons.