I have ran an iron mesh with flakjaks in the past but had to stop because the half mask would bruise the bridge of my nose from the pressure it put on it. However I could wear a ballcap backwards just fine.

 

I run with goggles and and skull half face mask from evike and a tab fox racing hat and it seems to work good but you will have to wear the hat backwards if you use googles but they make full seal google that kinda look like sunglasses with is what u recommend because then you can use the ht foreward

-Snowman

 

I have ran an iron mesh with flakjaks in the past but had to stop because the half mask would bruise the bridge of my nose from the pressure it put on it. However I could wear a ballcap backwards just fine.

Yeah, I feel like I'm contantly doing adjustments in the field with the half mask. I think it looks the coolest imo however I never know if it's up too high or down too low.

I'm also guessing the only way to combine a hat into this equation is to wear it backwards?

 

I use that set up
Put the iron face mask on, then the goggles, then the hat (if you want the hat to sit forward.
If you want the hat backwards, put the iron mask, then hat, then goggles on top of the hat's lip

 

I use that set up
Put the iron face mask on, then the goggles, then the hat (if you want the hat to sit forward.
If you want the hat backwards, put the iron mask, then hat, then goggles on top of the hat's lip

So basically if I want the hat to be "forward" I have to purchase a bigger hat, right? haha

 

So basically if I want the hat to be "forward" I have to purchase a bigger hat, right? haha

No haha. I use a normal baseball cap and it works fine. Lots of people at my field wear the same set up

 

I do it occasionally, no issues for me. I just don't like the look. Not 0p3r4T0r enough. N33d5 Mur 0p3r4t0r! Without the mesh face mask, baseball cap looks ok with glasses. But I prefer my face not being f***ed up any more than it is

 

I put the hat on first and it works fine I can also wear it anyway I want, my hat is also a SnapBack.

 

I do it occasionally, no issues for me. I just don't like the look. Not 0p3r4T0r enough. N33d5 Mur 0p3r4t0r! Without the mesh face mask, baseball cap looks ok with glasses. But I prefer my face not being f***ed up any more than it is

I thought that look was basically the "PMC Operator look"

 

It is, but looks better with sunglasses. Full seal protection is ALWAYS better IMHO. And the half mask isn't too bad looking.

 

What you need is a different variety of baseball cap, which basically comes down to the 'operator hat'. The primary difference being that shooting hats have brims that sit higher up, so they don't interfere with your vision, safety eyewear, or the gun itself if you are staring down low sights.

Personally, I use one of these: http://www.skdtac.com/SKD-Tactical-Ball-Cap-p/skd.201.htm
There are quite a few others on the market, however, but that is a much cheaper alternative and copy of the HSGI cap design. Very light and comfortable, and fit just about any goggles without issue (although I use ESS Advancer V12, ESS Profile NVG, and Bolle T800's, so I've no idea if the Arena Flakjackets fit).

 

What you need is a different variety of baseball cap, which basically comes down to the 'operator hat'. The primary difference being that shooting hats have brims that sit higher up, so they don't interfere with your vision, safety eyewear, or the gun itself if you are staring down low sights.

Personally, I use one of these: http://www.skdtac.com/SKD-Tactical-Ball-Cap-p/skd.201.htm
There are quite a few others on the market, however, but that is a much cheaper alternative and copy of the HSGI cap design. Very light and comfortable, and fit just about any goggles without issue (although I use ESS Advancer V12, ESS Profile NVG, and Bolle T800's, so I've no idea if the Arena Flakjackets fit).

Thanks!
I'm pretty sure the ESS Profiles and Arena Flakjaks are around the same size, so I should be good there!

Would you recommend this hat?
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=34520

Also, do you wear yours in front or backwards?

 

I can never fit my Bollé X800 Tacticals with my mesh half-mask. I usually roll with just a baseball cap facing forward and my X800s, or throw a shemagh or thin cotton balaclava into the mix. It's got to be a 2 or 3 hole though, if my mouth isn't exposed I get goggle steamage.

 

i just got a half mask like the one shown, i also have the full seal "sunglasses" goggles too what im trying is put the mask on first hat second and goggles last, adjust. that seems to work for me.

 

i just got a half mask like the one shown, i also have the full seal "sunglasses" goggles too what im trying is put the mask on first hat second and goggles last, adjust. that seems to work for me.

Hm.. I'll try that one out. Thanks!

 

This is my exact set up.
Same gen2 mask and Flak Jaks

 

If you're okay with ditching the mask, a shemagh (tactical scarf, desert scarf, et al) is a very awesome alternative. I run with the tacti-cool ballcap, issued ESS or Wiley-X gogs/glasses, and a shemagh. You definitely get the operator look going that way, more so than with the mask.

 

This is my exact set up.
Same gen2 mask and Flak Jaks

*twinzies*

I just got myself a tan tactical hat and run a tan shemagh with it aswell.
I'm enjoying the look of it quite a bit.

 

This is the order I put them on: Hat, then Half Mask, then goggles over it.

 

I wear a similar setup, but I wear a helmet. Works nice if you put on the half mask first, then the helmet and secure it with a chin strap. Keeps the half mask on snug, and you can just wrap your goggles around the helmet.

 

Glasses, mask, then hat. I almost always wear boonie hats, so I'm not sure about a ball cap.

 

Thanks!
I'm pretty sure the ESS Profiles and Arena Flakjaks are around the same size, so I should be good there!

Would you recommend this hat?
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=34520

Also, do you wear yours in front or backwards?

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That hat is alright, and you shouldn't have any trouble provided you don't curl the brim much. The real issue with most hats is reducing your field of view, which is more significant if your head is tilted down slightly. Condor 'tan' is also pretty brown from what I remember, much like the swatch on the left of the image on that site.

I wear mine forward, but more because the strap at the back is a bungee that is not too friendly to the bare forehead.

 

i run a stalker mesh mask with ESS goggles and a baseball cap, but i am switching to a helmet as i am tired of getting a headache from getting shot in the head.

 

I run the mesh mask, the goggles, but i have a head wrap...
I love it. comfortable, i can ads, and lightweight!

 

I have a lower face and I either run it with my Flakjaks and a helmet or small goggles and a Shemagh. I feel that the Flakjaks are too bulky for just a baseball cap on top, but that's just me.