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Bang bang rule

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#1 ·
It's that rule that says if you suddenly find yourself too close to an opponent to shoot them you yell bang bang and they're out. Any alternatives.
 
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#3 ·
We use the "Mercy" rule. You have the person in your sights, you are really too close. You ask "Mercy?" the other person can accept or not. If not they get shot, but can't complain if it hurts!
 
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#5 ·
we have a 10 foot or less surrender rule - if the opposing player is 10 ft or less from the tip of your barrel, you yell surrender...if you do shoot someone from 10 ft or less then you are out and the person you shot is still in...if they don't hear you or don't surrender, take a step or 2 back and shoot them :D
 
#6 ·
don't ask them to surrender, just say You are dead bro...
that usually ends it right there. if you ask them to surrender, they will shoot you.
if you say bang bang, they will shoot you.
if you say they are dead, it will sink into their head that dead players don't shoot back.

if he still shoots you when you say you're dead, then call both of yourselves out and get a ref. newbies usually are confused about surrender or bang bang. once they hear you are dead, they know what that means.
 
#8 ·
I support the MED (Medium Engagement Distance), however what BoogerMc said also has validity...

For the most part, I won't ask a person if they surrender; if I get close enough to them to where I should have to, I will either knife them out with my training knife, or I will tell them that they're dead.
 
#9 ·
I always say if your real close shoot them but aim low. Heck yea it hurts but o well it ain't gona tickle. I'm just told grow a pair and suck it up but that's just me nd I'm bck yard playen so idk anyother field.
 
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Here, we usually say "your dead" or just discreetly saying "psssst.." (don't know how to express it in English lol) so that nobody hears it.

Another one is 1 shot is given to the body armor or vest only. However, shots (full or burst) can still be given to those who disregard the 1 shot and tends to return fire.

For multiple tango, they are being shot as fast as you can to get them all since once you just shot one of them, the other will return fire. Full auto to any part of body is legal.

For sudden close encounter (below 5 meters), anything is legal. Meaning you can give a full auto, burst or semi since both of you were surprised.
I hate this when it happened because it opens an endless debate on who was shot first!:D
 
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wiseman said:
Here, we usually say "your dead" or just discreetly saying "psssst.." (don't know how to express it in English lol) so that nobody hears it.

Another one is 1 shot is given to the body armor or vest only. However, shots (full or burst) can still be given to those who disregard the 1 shot and tends to return fire.

For multiple tango, they are being shot as fast as you can to get them all since once you just shot one of them, the other will return fire. Full auto to any part of body is legal.

For sudden close encounter (below 5 meters), anything is legal. Meaning you can give a full auto, burst or semi since both of you were surprised.
I hate this when it happened because it opens an endless debate on who was shot first!:D
well when this last one happens I just say your both dead cause if it was a real encounter and both got shots off, well you both just died or was wounded.
 
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BSLS157 said:
well when this last one happens I just say your both dead cause if it was a real encounter and both got shots off, well you both just died or was wounded.
Both may have gotten shots off, but someone may have flinched and missed even at close range.
 
#17 ·
We just use common sense/ judgement. It is up to the enemy to determine if they want to surrender. If u surrender then they cant shoot you. Normally though, if u just tap them on the shoulder or say something they will surrender.
 
#18 ·
I normally go bang bang simpily because everyone knows what it means surrender is a stupid thing because well I have a story

This one game there was 6 of us split into 2 man teams for a team deathmatch over about 2 acres and we me and my team captain hid in an old shed/ lean to type structure and we were going to get a smoke bomb lit ( this was my familys property) and the fuse was acting stupid and while we mcgrving out we hear surrender or die it was our support gunner with his echo 1 red star and we both jumped but yelled bang bang since we didnt respond yes or no, we could bang bang.

So thats my idea of what to call when a questionable kill is near
 
#20 ·
I was the one who said surrender or die, didn't you recongize me, by my name
 
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#21 ·
Got one for you guys, just got back from a game with some guys I've played against once before. They decided to play "beat down," which is basically no hit limits, you take shots until you give or run out of ammo. I don't know, but I think they'll think twice before they try this again with me and my buddy that came along.

I'm walking down this trail in their heavily wooded field, I can barely see because my "anti-fog" lenses are as fogged as they can be. So, I'm in the open and one of the guys starts nailing me hard core, I see him move and return the favor, driving him behind his little tree. I get a few bursts off and I'm getting lit up from behind, I can hear bb's bouncing off my back and feel 'em tagging my neck and head. As I turn, my whole left cheek gets lit up. Luckily, I was wearing my face mask with my head netting attached. So, I turn and begin spraying in the general direction of the enemy fire, keeping my aim low so as not to intentionally target the head, not that that was stopping these guys. But, hey, I try to be the better man, you know.

So, I'm laying in on this second guy and I've got him dead to rights when my mag goes empty. I take a few stpes off to the side out of the line of fire, turn my back to the guy and switch out my mags. I was using my ICS SIG 551, first time out with it and it performed beautifully. Anyway, I'm reloaded, and suddenly the first guy in this little fire fight starts pounding me again, so I return fire, laying in heavy on him and drive him back into cover.

The other guy starts nailing my back again, so I turn around and I'm thinking to myself, "screw this." I start walking, right in his direction (they never set any minimum engagement distance limits, so everything was fair game), I get about fifteen feet from him and I'm just pinning him to the tree, if he comes out one side, I light that side up, if he pops around the other, I push him back behind it again.

About the time I get to ten feet, he gives up and calls it. Now I've got his teammate up ahead and he's using my face as a bullseye, I could literally see the bb's shattering against my lenses (they were using Crosmans, go figure). I warn him, about the excessive head shots because I was in the open, no cover, just standing there. He answered with another burst to my head. That was that, I start walking again, right to his position.

Now he's taking fire from my teammates to his right, and I'm still approaching from what is now his left. Talk about a hard crossfire situation. I get between ten and fifteen feet when someone behind me says, "Give up!" I turn to see his last teammate (it was four on four). He's holding a modified M-4 he keeps calling an SPR. So, I'm standing there about eight to ten feet from him and he's like "give it up man," about this time the other guy is yelling at him saying, "are you crazy, look what he's wearing." I was in my standard loadout. I smile behind my mask and proceed to lay into him full auto, he turns and hauls @$$ away from me.

Come on, where's the fun in that, he had the balls to get close enough to get the drop on me and he just bolts?

So, I give chase, I figured the other guy had his hands full with the rest of my team. I chase the guy for about twenty feet and he ducks behind a tree, mind you, the whole time I'm chasing him down, I'm barely moving, just walking, but I'm on my trigger constant, I'm winding my Hi-Cap, shooting low from the hip, and just walking him down. As soon as he gets to the tree, he starts laying in to me. I'm still in the open, taking bb's full frontal, head, chest, legs, and both my thumbs, now I have to admit, this hurt, but I was not giving him the satisfaction of letting him know it. I just kept walking and shooting. He drops behind the teee, and I'd lay on the trigger, he'd pop out and I'd lay on the trigger. I was about to walk right up to him, he had nowhere left to go because there was a steep incline behind him and I was not letting him off this tree.

About this time, I look down and see two of his M-4 mags on the ground, one barely sticking out of a mud puddle. I knew he only had four mags and since one was in the gun and I know he had just swapped mags, he was up the creek as they say. I kept on him until I heard the gun click and the mag whir as it ran out. So, I tell him if he calls a temporary truce, I will too. So, he agrees and I pick up his two mags and hand them to him. Here he had lost the other one as well. So, I agree to call it and help him look for his missing mag.

In the meantime, the first guy is still somewhere back where I left him and the third guy is still getting it from the last few guys still on my team. About the time I find the last missing mag, the rest of his team calls it and it's game over.

My buddy that came along is in the middle of one of the nearby trails rubbing his eye, it seems the third guy and him got into it seriously, fully exchanging fire, except my buddy is aiming for his mid section while the other guy was still aiming for people's head. One of the bb's slipped behing my buddy's glasses and caught him in the edge of the eye. No serious damage, but I'm sure he'll have a red mark for weeks. My buddy kept warning him he was shooting too high, and not having a full face mask, this left him vunerable. It was as hot as hades today and he decided not to wear his mask, now he's wishing he had.

After we all settled down for a between game break, the guy I was chasing down looks at me and says, "I'll give you the walks up on 'em award. Man, I didn't think you would just stand there and take it, I figured you call it." So, I asked him if he really thought I was gonna let him intimidate me like that, I play with a guy named Overkill, that little SPR thing aint jack. I asked him if he really thought I wouldn't tear him a new one, sneaking up on me like that. He replied he thought I might, but then again judging from my loadout, he thought I might not.

So, there you have it, my story of how I withstood headshot after headshot and lived to tell about it.

It is never a wise idea to tell a guy or group of guys, who normally play, "hits don't count, only capture" that he has unlimited hits, but that "he must give up or bleed" because one, he aint giving up, and two he's gonna make you "bleed."
 
#22 ·
I like the idea that its optional.
Someone sneaks up behind me what would be a easy kill and says "bang" I'll take the hit.
or if some one jumps around the corner with my gun pointing at them and they say "bang", I shoot back.

here are the rules for bangs, and knife kills, from rulebook of the group i regularly play with.

8 Surrender, BINGO! BANG!
8.1 A Surrender, BINGO! BANG! can come from any direction!
8.2 Gun must be working, loaded pointed at target as initial requirement!
8.3 Getting a surrender is a 2 step method.
8.3a If your target is close range and obviously without cover, You must say "Surrender" "Bang" "Bingo" "dude your so dead"
8.3b If they do not immediately announce “surrender” "i'm Dead" "Hit" "Sei" and raise hands or they move suddenly, as if to evade or fight back, you may Open Fire!
Eg:
Step 1 you ask for a "Bingo"
Step 2 opfor surrenders.. or opens fire
8.4 Suggested definition of close range
_______a. Stock power pistols and AEG’s under 1 joule 10 feet/3 meters
_______b. Any upgraded weapon or stock weapon over 1 joule/20 feet/6 meters

9 Knife Kill
9.1 Is a way of eliminating your opponent when in close proximity. Its advantage over calling for surrender is that it is silent.
9.2 A knife kill occurs when a player “taps” the opponent on any part of his body. When that happens the opponent is considered “dead”.
9.3 Attacker must gently use his hand, gun part or rubber knife. (NO real steel!)
9.4 A “knife killed” opponent does not announce that he/she is “hit”, and must stay silent. They then raises his/her weapon over his/her head and proceeds out of the play area like any “hit” player.
9.4 Also Killer May ask the opponent to stay in that position for a limited time as 'dead' until he decides that it is safe to move and continue to advance.

and there is talk of changing this rule.
8.2 Gun must be working, loaded pointed at target as initial requirement!
As you should be able to bluff a surrender if you out of ammo or busted gun.
but of cause someone has the option of calling your bluff.

that's how we do it.
;)
 
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#23 ·
ehobbyasia.com said:
I like the idea that its optional.
I think that would be pretty cool but at my field, since it's pretty hectic as it is, there is no option. It's called a "safety" kill because that's simply what it is, and if someone says it, no matter what, your out. If both of you round a corner and are looking at eachother with your guns pointed your both out. People at my field rarely listen to stuff like that so the head of the field decided that it needed to be really strict to help keep the close quarters shots down..especially because also at the field, no body really cares about the FPS restrictions, and they just upgrade their guns to be extremely powerful and have ridiculously high rates of fire
 
#24 ·
The way we play it, if they don't surrender, the attacker may shoot. The way it was first explained to me was "he's doing you a favor".
 
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#25 ·
I think that would be pretty cool but at my field, since it's pretty hectic as it is, there is no option. It's called a "safety" kill because that's simply what it is, and if someone says it, no matter what, your out. If both of you round a corner and are looking at eachother with your guns pointed your both out. People at my field rarely listen to stuff like that so the head of the field decided that it needed to be really strict to help keep the close quarters shots down..especially because also at the field, no body really cares about the FPS restrictions, and they just upgrade their guns to be extremely powerful and have ridiculously high rates of fire
That's why we have it as well. WE also have an additional rule. If two combatants come upon each other within their MED, they can choose to "Parley" which means they turn around (without firing) walk 20 steps and then can do whatever they want. It is concidered dishonorable to shoot someone in the back after a parley!
 
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#26 ·
Most of the fields I play on have liability insurance, so MEDs and Safety Kills are not optional, they are required.

Personally, I don't play airsoft to prove how "tough" I am or how many hits I can take.
I play for fun and comeraderie. If player safety means I take a "Bang Bang" or safety kill, then so be it. Call me crazy, but pain and fun don't mix for me...
 
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