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Tippmann M4

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#1 ·
I don't know where I found it, but I think they just made the announcement today. Seems really cool. As a paintball convert and non-aeg fan, I will probably have one. Excerpt from Tippmann webiste:


The M4 Carbine features a realistic flip-top break down design like a true M4/AR. Its versatile air system uses either a 12g CO2 cartridge in the 80 round magazine, or the built-in remote line. It's also compatible with airsoft's standard magazines, from 30 to 300 rounds. The M4 Carbine has a metal receiver, and is compatible with many actual M4/AR components including a rear stock, front shroud and standard Picatinny Rail System.

The M4 Carbine is adjustable to match each player's needs and style of play. The rate of fire can range from semi-auto to 20 rounds per second full-auto, using an air assisted trigger design that does not require batteries. Velocity can be adjusted up to 400 feet per second and can be equipped with a velocity adjustment lock. The inner sleeved barrel is airsoft standard (aftermarket compatible) with adjustable hop up. An armorer's wrench is included for barrel changes. Other features include Tippmann's proven in-line bolt system with anti-jam technology, flip up front and rear sights and modular 8-sided Picatinny fore grip.

Made in the U.S.A. and backed by Tippmann's unrivaled 1 year full warranty the new M4 Carbine will retail for $399.
 
#3 ·
The part I'm curious about is does this thing expend a 12g cartridge before 80 rds? Or do you just drop it spewing co2 when you're out of rounds in the mag?

Either way, if I had the thing I sure as hell would be using the plug in under the pistol grip.

I would actually be interested in one if it wasn't so damn expensive :/
 
#59 ·
The part I'm curious about is does this thing expend a 12g cartridge before 80 rds? Or do you just drop it spewing co2 when you're out of rounds in the mag?

Either way, if I had the thing I sure as hell would be using the plug in under the pistol grip.

I would actually be interested in one if it wasn't so damn expensive :/
To be honest the co2 mags will fire all 80 rounds but will indeed have co2 left over. However when u release the mag the remaining gas will be expelled. I don't like that I reccomend hpa. I have an awesome set up and some nice mods done to it. Check out my channel for more tippman performance game play

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#4 ·
I for one thought the price was rather decent for what this is.
Lets face it, its basically a modernized Daytona gun. that has been made off of the tippmann98c platform so it should be reliable.

I have always been unhappy with the "recoil" delivered by GBBr's and Daytona guns.. they seem closer to a .22 or .17hmr than anything. Almost not worth the extra cost expenditure.
I for one, hope this thing kicks like a 98c :)
That would make it all worth the cost for me.


One issue though.. They say its standard AEG mag compatible, but I just dont see how.
Would you first have to remove the C02 parts inside? like the puncture device that sticks down far enough to reach into the factory mag. Dont know if they realized, but there is no big hole in the top of AEG mags for that to fit through..

All things considered,
I'll be buying one when I get the chance
 
#5 ·
I'm interested for 2 reasons.

1, At 400 for the complete package, that's less than a Polarstar engine by 100 bucks, and has the complete gun already.

2, If Tippmann did what I'm sure they did, you're not going to need the ridiculously expensive remote line to make this puppy run, which means you could, theoretically, put together a brand new HPA setup for around 500 bucks, which is huge.

Also, I'm liking what I've read on some of the paintball forum's about how this is also huge with Tippmann branching out to help us save both sports from the government. Fingers crossed, this will also help to kill some more of the bad blood that some paintballers and airsofters still have against one another. Granted, I'm sure it won't, but one can hope.


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#6 ·
One issue though.. They say its standard AEG mag compatible, but I just dont see how.
Would you first have to remove the C02 parts inside? like the puncture device that sticks down far enough to reach into the factory mag. Dont know if they realized, but there is no big hole in the top of AEG mags for that to fit through.
If you pause the video when he pops the rear pin to show you the internals, it looks like the CO2 system is totally separate from the remote line gas system (note 2 nozzles front to back just rear of the magwell), which would leave me to believe that the CO2 section is easily removable if you're going to run a remote line.

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#11 ·
I'm incredibly interested in this. There are ways to keep the Co2 from spewing, pretty much the same way we keep the green gas from spewing when we take a mag out. Pretty much the same way a GBB mag operates. Pin, hammer strikes the pin, Co2 expended, hammer goes back, pin goes back. Simple. When you remove the mag, the pin keeps the Co2 from spraying everywhere.
 
#12 ·
The part I'm curious about is does this thing expend a 12g cartridge before 80 rds? Or do you just drop it spewing co2 when you're out of rounds in the mag?

Either way, if I had the thing I sure as hell would be using the plug in under the pistol grip.

I would actually be interested in one if it wasn't so damn expensive :/
If its actually set up like he said it was '98 rear bolt' then 80 shots would make sense. Those bolts are HEAVY, which would give some great kick but be hungry to cycle. It looks to me like they are revisiting a very old system of using a heavy hammer to ****** the cyclic rate in full auto, thus meaning it doesnt have a more complicated sear set.
 
#13 ·
not a GBBR, just a GR, from what he mentions, there's not bolt that moves, so it'll fire just like an AEG, without the sound of an AEG.
From what I figure, there using the same system as the 98c. So it would have a bolt, just not in the same fashion as where thinking.
If where lucky, that super heavy bolt will offer a far superior kick over its GBBr competitors :)
 
#14 · (Edited)
Thread revive, but I am interested in this as well.

I still want to know:
-How gas efficient on HPA and 400fps @ 20rps?
-how accurate? Range? Can I change bucking, nub and barrel?

Only let downs so far:
-not an open bolt system that will lock back on last shot.

I see it as 2 things:
-Polar Star with recoil minus the FCU.
-Efficient and reliable GBB minus the open bolt and locking bolt affects.
Sadly, it was the FCU and open bolt affects that made these two above gun types so desirable.
 
#15 ·
This does sound like a good alternative and great system...
My main concerns would be that of wasting CO2... Anyone who tinkers on their gun knows the pain this will cause... Tinkering, put in the mag, fire 3 shots and then nothing, eject the mag and CO2 capsule just to figure out you failed to include one tiny piece.
Or even worse, you reload, then 3 minutes later the match end. The ref then says "Remove your mags from your gun BEFORE you leave the field and enter staging".

My next question would be what internal pieces can it use... As Legacy mentioned, the barrel assembly.

Of course price is the next question. I'm expecting this gun to retail at $400 minimum for a barebones gun, without the HPA part, and simple things like that.

And yes, the realism of the bolt locking back is kind of disappointing as well. But then again, this is some good competition to the GHK.

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#16 ·
One issue though.. They say its standard AEG mag compatible, but I just dont see how.
Would you first have to remove the C02 parts inside? like the puncture device that sticks down far enough to reach into the factory mag. Dont know if they realized, but there is no big hole in the top of AEG mags for that to fit through
The puncture system can be removed and replaced with a remote line adapter in the pistol grip, freeing up space in the mag well to use a standard mag.

 
#18 ·
My theory on how this gun is going to be used is:

"Not-as-modular" P*.

I doubt anyone will use the C02 mags when they think about buying this gun.

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It's Tippmann, I can tell you that by the end of the year if this does well, this system will be in a number of other guns. It's too bulky for smaller rifles but I'd say that it'll be a big contender for the HPA LMG market.
 
#19 ·
It's Tippmann, I can tell you that by the end of the year if this does well, this system will be in a number of other guns. It's too bulky for smaller rifles but I'd say that it'll be a big contender for the HPA LMG market.
It's also a version 1 model, so expect a few innovations over the next few cycles. They MAY even change the CO2 system to make it more tempting to players.

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#20 ·
This looks promising! I only see a couple problems though.

First, no open bolt. Okay, no big deal but that's part of the whole reason people buy GBB's.

Second, it's Tippmann. It'll probably last forever but as with everything else they sell, performance will be lacking for the price you're paying.

Hopefully other companies catch on to this idea though.
 
#21 ·
This looks promising! I only see a couple problems though.

First, no open bolt. Okay, no big deal but that's part of the whole reason people buy GBB's.

Second, it's Tippmann. It'll probably last forever but as with everything else they sell, performance will be lacking for the price you're paying.

Hopefully other companies catch on to this idea though.
Price for performance is what Tippmann has always been about. There's a reason most paintball fields still rent out original 98 models. I don't really understand what you meant.
 
#22 ·
I always wanted to start paintball, but never got into it. I shot my buddies T98. Hes used that thing a lot, and its always treated him good. I'm glad Tippman is stepping into the world of airsoft. Because as already stated, they know how to make a good product.
 
#23 ·
From what I see it looks like you can use their co2 magazines OR use a HPA rig and regular magazines, or just their mags without the co2.


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#24 ·
Price for performance is what Tippmann has always been about. There's a reason most paintball fields still rent out original 98 models. I don't really understand what you meant.
They rent it because it's extremely durable. You can get better at the price though. Spyder, Azodin, Smart Parts, etc. They're all more efficient with better features than Tippmann's bottom end lineup. Don't even get me started on their Army line of markers.

The reason you see fields rent 98's instead of those others is because they'll last forever with very little maintenance, if any. Don't get me wrong, Tippmann does do some very interesting stuff and they've innovated more than any other company in the paintball market if you ask me. I just don't think their guns are worth the price.

But anyway, since this is an airsoft forum and not a paintball forum, I'm hoping that other companies see what Tippmann is doing and jump on-board. I think paintball companies could do something really interesting with shotguns especially, considering the bore size of a paintball isn't that far off from a 12ga shell. A cheap, CO2 multi shot shotgun would be amazing.
 
#25 ·
I will be keeping an eye out for a used one in a year or two. I have a bunch of CO2 tanks and tippmann parts sitting around from when I was looking at getting into paintball.

I also love that there is no adaptor needed for HPA/CO2 use.